Transfer Rumours Summer 2025 Transfer Thread…
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Tim Walter’s main problem was his man management. Guy came across like an absolute whopper. His theatrics on the sidelines for a misplaced pass boiled my piss as well.
It would be revisionist in the extreme to suggest there weren't fundamental issues with his tactical approach as well.
not the bid James hogarth from bbc radio humberside mentioned earlier on today then?
Ha, what part of nine consecutive non-victories, wanting goal music and increasingly uncomfortable post match interviews would make anyone want to have seen Walter stay longer at city.
Let's, once again, look at the actual facts.
OUT (in this "Fire Sale", "Not a firesale per se but ..." )
Selles
2 Assistants
Simons (sold)
Racioppi (sold)
Smith (sold)
Mehlem (sold)
Macca (sold)
A Jones (sold)
Alzate (sold)
Kamara (sold stc)
Sinik (released)
Amrabat (released)
Pedro (released)
Foster (released)
C Jones (released)
Fleming (released)
Puerta (returned/contract voided)
Jacob (loan - not returning)
Omur (loan - not returning)
Burstow (loan - suspect not returning)
+
TLT (loan, returning)
R Coyle (loan, returning)
Cartwright (loan, suspect returning)
That's some impressive clearing up. I understand a bit of debate could be had over maybe a couple of players in that list depending on which side of the fanbase split (over said players) you sit, but that's all. I don't think there's even 1 player on that list that the fan base would unanimously be saying why the **** have we let him go.
Now lets look at who's come in.
Jakirovic
3 assistants
+ Holden
+ Hodges
McBurnie
Williams
Destan
Ajayi
Akintola
Famewo
Philips
Gelhardt (loan)
Lundstram (loan - likely view to permanent)
Ndala (loan)
Hadziahmetovic (loan stc - likely view to permanent)
Laalaoui (loan until permanent stc)
Giles (back in from the cold)
(stc = subject to confirmation / completion)
A more than impressive window tbf.
On top of all that, I fully expect Furlong, and maybe Vaughan too, to still exit and then be replaced with upgrades in positions where further depth or strengthening would be welcome.
We've also added another couple of interesting prospects to the academy in the process.
Yes, there's a chance that Panda and Hughes may still end up leaving. I don't believe the club are wanting to sell at this stage, and I don't think either of them are pushing for a move .... but the fact is, if a big money offer comes in for either from the right club then their heads would possibly be turned and they could be gone; that's life, just the way it is for pretty much all clubs. So long as it's not last minute, it's highly likely we'd replace them.
But anyway, crack on with the dramatic, self defeating, fact-warping rhetoric if it makes some feel better. I'll continue to stick with actual facts and realities
Well I found the summary of ins and outs quite useful, not entirely sure of the backstory, but it's a forum
Never said he was a genius. I said I was curious to see if his tactics would have worked had he have had a settled team and time. It was an unpopular opinion at the time to give him longer, but I still hold it, despite what anyone else might think about it.
I also don't think Tim Walter set us back at all. If anything it was our business last summer, or at least the manner of it that really set us back. I mean, look at us now.
Hes utter ****e lad
They didnt work
Wouldnt have worked
Never worked
Hopefully we join his fellow germans and get promoted once the clowns binned off
Let's, once again, look at the actual facts.
OUT (in this "Fire Sale", "Not a firesale per se but ..." )
Selles
2 Assistants
Simons (sold)
Racioppi (sold)
Smith (sold)
Mehlem (sold)
Macca (sold)
A Jones (sold)
Alzate (sold)
Kamara (sold stc)
Sinik (released)
Amrabat (released)
Pedro (released)
Foster (released)
C Jones (released)
Fleming (released)
Puerta (returned/contract voided)
Jacob (loan - not returning)
Omur (loan - not returning)
Burstow (loan - suspect not returning)
+
TLT (loan, returning)
R Coyle (loan, returning)
Cartwright (loan, suspect returning)
That's some impressive clearing up. I understand a bit of debate could be had over maybe a couple of players in that list depending on which side of the fanbase split (over said players) you sit, but that's all. I don't think there's even 1 player on that list that the fan base would unanimously be saying why the **** have we let him go.
Now lets look at who's come in.
Jakirovic
3 assistants
+ Holden
+ Hodges
McBurnie
Williams
Destan
Ajayi
Akintola
Famewo
Philips
Gelhardt (loan)
Lundstram (loan - likely view to permanent)
Ndala (loan)
Hadziahmetovic (loan stc - likely view to permanent)
Laalaoui (loan until permanent stc)
Giles (back in from the cold)
(stc = subject to confirmation / completion)
A more than impressive window tbf.
On top of all that, I fully expect Furlong, and maybe Vaughan too, to still exit and then be replaced with upgrades in positions where further depth or strengthening would be welcome.
We've also added another couple of interesting prospects to the academy in the process.
Yes, there's a chance that Panda and Hughes may still end up leaving. I don't believe the club are wanting to sell at this stage, and I don't think either of them are pushing for a move .... but the fact is, if a big money offer comes in for either from the right club then their heads would possibly be turned and they could be gone; that's life, just the way it is for pretty much all clubs. So long as it's not last minute, it's highly likely we'd replace them.
But anyway, crack on with the dramatic, self defeating, fact-warping rhetoric if it makes some feel better. I'll continue to stick with actual facts and realities
Taking flak for this from the usual suspects when most of it is on page one, put there by OLM who gets plaudits for it.
Funny old game football forums.
Yep fully . You would hope the club are not gambling on it and are certain of the arrangement and it’s all formalities - hope !
There's clearly a financial imperative to the Kamara, and every other outgoing deal we've done this window then.
If we don't lose anymore key players and sign Amir, then that makes the work they've done in the window all the more impressive.
Roll on Monday.
There was more chance of Hitler turning round the fortunes of the Third Reich, if he'd held off pulling the trigger in his bunker, than Walter ever being able to turn round the fortunes of City at the time..
Up there with Dowie and Parkinson as the ****test city managers of all time.
Doubt they’ll have pushed it up to the amount we would consider.
It worked pretty well in his previous job with a settled side. I said before he came in that I'd be curious to see how/if it worked. Unfortunately due to chaotic and late summer activity and some major, key injuries I don't think we ever got to see it in action properly. I also think the tactical shift was too big a change for the players we retained. Rosie ball was too safe, but Walter ball seemed much more kamikaze - or at least how we ended up executing it.
At no point have I declared Walter's tactics are genius, so don't put words in my mouth.
It didnt
He had the best team by miles there
If his tactics werent so revolutionary
Could have been promoted
Im also curious to see what itd have been like if mccann stayed
To be fair
So nothing to do with any other factors that might have contributed, or just as black and white as 'Tim Walter was ****' then? If Bedia was a striker's arsehole for example. Or if Belloumi and Millar had stayed fit. Or if we had an actual left back worth fielding.
It was too much change too soon - from a tactical and recruitment perspective. We were a **** show, both on and off the field. We'll never know if he'd had turned it round, but with the way it started going I don't think he would have done, no. It all got far too volatile, which is why I agree that Acun had to pull the trigger when he did.
No coincidence they got promoted the first full season after he left. They had the biggest budget. He failed 3 times.