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Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by Doc, Aug 15, 2025 at 4:37 PM.

  1. Eireleeds1

    Eireleeds1 Well-Known Member

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    I think we know that any players shifted out will be on loan. Why would any club be stupid enough to pay money for Bamford or Meslier when they can have a look at them for aa season before buying. After all it’s our usual means of getting tid
     
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    The shame of it is was we were offered money for Meslier back in January from Nice I think it was plus Lorient asking the question, we were offered cash for Joseph and turned it down and now we send him out on loan. We have made some howlers over the last 3 seasons. I dont see any improvements in fact think it’s worse, so all those people saying the 49ers are doing a great job need to have a rethink, and for those who think we have Red Bull helping in recruitment, well clearly not
     
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    Eireleeds1 Well-Known Member

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    I’ve always said give the 49ers time to prove themselves. Great if they eventually get us to where Forest are. Established top half club with extended ground. Still awaiting some serious business that will change my mind. They seem unbelievably slow at concluding business
     
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  4. Doc

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    Now confirmed Kalimuendo signs for Forest for £25m! For him that’s peanuts and everyone knew he was going to be on the market. Apparently we spoke to him and he refused to come. However if we knew we could get him for only £25m they should have made him a very attractive offer and sold him the project and plan. Money talks today. There is now only one big domino to fall and thats Mitrovic, all the very top strikers now gone besides him. Hojlund has now been told officially he’s no longer in the Man Utd squad and is only £30m and he’s only on £80kpwk. We seem to have an ambition deficit when it comes to forwards. Nkunku could have been the attacking threat from wide left or up front but we were so fixated on Paixcoa we did nothing else.
     
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  5. NostradEmus

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    To be fair to the 49ers, alot of the **** we are left with are from the Orta era. Yes, they were minority shareholders at the time but they weren't pulling the strings.

    We know that the 49ers wanted to get rid of Meslier in January and offered to buy Farke a new goalkeeper but Farke refused and backed Meslier to be the #1 only to change him for Darlow later in the season.

    We also know Orta and Radz wanted rid of Harrison to Leicester but it was the 49ers that pulled the plug.

    It just seems to be a running theme with Leeds that we pay over the odds and sell on the cheap. Its been going on for years.

    Thats why I'm happy for us to be trying to drive prices down and not overpaying like Sunderland. We overpaid for Llorente, Koch, Roca, Kristensen, Rodrigo, Wober, Aaronson and we are literally still paying for it 3 years later. Add in the stupid contracts given to Bamford and Harrison and you can see the reason why Sunderland are outbidding us in the market.

    I'd rather be more sensible this summer and I'm glad the club are erring on the side of caution. It is exactly what Brighton would do and it's not a bad model to follow. (Brighton offered 18 million for Diarra, we offered 22 million, Sunderland paid 35 million).
     
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    Kalimuendo was never going to a relegation battle club. It was never a goer. There's no reliable evidence we spoke to him.

    Mitrovic has been told to leave despite his incredible strike rate in Saudi. He was suffering with cardiac issues at the end of last season and has been undergoing tests all summer. Smells a bit fishy that they just want rid after his exploits over there. Its one to dodge.
     
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  7. Eireleeds1

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    Problem
    With that logic though is Diarra now plays for Sunderland. Not Brighton or us. Farke has said how important new attacking recruits are to his project. To date he has not been backed
     
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    Would you have gazumped Sunderland by paying more than 35 million for Diarra?
     
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    Brentford look dreadful by the way. Long may it continue.
     
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    minor point but i think that marsch/orta didn't want to sell Harrison... it was Radz needing the cash... think Orta intervened to get the 9ers to help.

    guess we'll see what the true worth of Diarra is over the course of the season
     
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    Would be happy with Sargent, Hamer & Okafor tbh. Considering dwindling options I think that’d be decent.
     
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    Understatement of the century/ Just turned over from the Chelsea game and wood talks it in to the goal
     
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    Brentford getting smashed 3-0 and Hull City go 1-0 inside 2 minutes Joe Gelhardt. Hope he has a great season because he’s now playing where he should have been just behind a front man
     
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    I think my order of hope from the existing teams who I thought COULD struggle was:

    Brentford
    Wolves
    West Ham
    Everton

    going ok so far… fingers crossed for number 4.
     
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  15. Mr Wolves-White

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    I don't think Everton are going to struggle under Moyes
     
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    Inclined to agree but they’ve lost a lot of players this summer.
     
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    But Moyes is an underrated manager. He's going to do well with them and push forward next season.
     
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  18. Eireleeds1

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    Absolutely if Farke wanted him and rated him
     
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  19. NostradEmus

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    Maybe Farke thought he wasn't worth it? We dont know.

    We'll see if the likes of Sadiki, Diarra et al were worth it as the season progresses.

    I'd suggest Brighton had the correct valuation given their recent history. We'll see.
     
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  20. Eireleeds1

    Eireleeds1 Well-Known Member

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    Personally don’t care who works out for
    Other clubs. If someone told you after promotion who our two new striker signings would be most would be disgusted. I’m not saying they won’t work and I hope they do but I see very little ambition from our owners. Anyway time
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    Serious matters. City centre drinking. MOT lads
     
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