Transfer Rumours Summer 2025 Transfer Thread…

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Shark Sports said:
We never just take a breath and think logically as a club, do we?

Regardless of all noise around the club, we didn't actually need to do that much this summer. We just needed an 8-10 goal-a-season striker, nothing crazy, who could ideally hold the ball up too. We also needed an a bit of character/leadership in the middle and final third of the pitch to help the young lads out. But they'll be better for having a year of championship experience under their belts.

With a half decent gaffer in place, we weren't going up and we weren't going down either so it was the ideal opportunity to blood a few of the kids and get the wage bill back under control.

Ideally, Pandur and Hughes will keep developing with the expectation that both will depart next summer for substantial fees. Get the 3 ACL lads back playing too as they're all players who could potentially be sold for big money.

But for some reason we always go super high risk, we've ripped up a tight defence and filled it with question marks, and spent all summer chasing strikers we never had a real chance of signing. I don't think I'll ever understand it
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Yep. And people cheerlead it when we get rid of players but it's just the same mistake time and time again. Every forward who plays for us is always just finding their feet. They're never here for a second season. They play in a crap side that creates nothing and we pile on them for not scoring, write off the investment in them and start the cycle with someone else. I don't know how people can still support that pattern, and happily believe that it's just this player isn't good enough. When every forward player you sign fails to make an impact you have to start asking whether it's really them that's the problem.
 
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For those wondering about non-fan based income for this season, to the best of my knowledge we will definitely get:

Just over £8m in TV money (£4.5m from the PL YV deal, £2.5m from the EFL, plus around 10x TV appearances @ £100k each).

Around £3.5m in solidarity payments from the PL.

Anywhere between £7k and £100k depending on how high up the table we finish.

So we're guaranteed at least £11.5m for being a Championship club.

Chuck in the sponsorship money and whatever we have made in player sales so far and we're probably at around the £15m mark. Which, isn't great to be honest.
 
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PLT said:
Yep. And people cheerlead it when we get rid of players but it's just the same mistake time and time again. Every forward who plays for us is always just finding their feet. They're never here for a second season. They play in a crap side that creates nothing and we pile on them for not scoring, write off the investment in them and start the cycle with someone else. I don't know how people can still support that pattern, and happily believe that it's just this player isn't good enough. When every forward player you sign fails to make an impact you have to start asking whether it's really them that's the problem.
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That’s a combination of finances , the managers picks , a players appearances and effectiveness . Burstow , Macca and jones could be poor at their new clubs . It’s all a gamble unless you can buy what you want
 
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PLT said:
Yep. And people cheerlead it when we get rid of players but it's just the same mistake time and time again. Every forward who plays for us is always just finding their feet. They're never here for a second season. They play in a crap side that creates nothing and we pile on them for not scoring, write off the investment in them and start the cycle with someone else. I don't know how people can still support that pattern, and happily believe that it's just this player isn't good enough. When every forward player you sign fails to make an impact you have to start asking whether it's really them that's the problem.
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Josh Sargeant is a prime example of what can happen if you stick with a striker and give them time. Was crap in his first PL season, but Norwich stuck with him and he became one of the most consistent forwards in the Championship.

I think what pushes people to be critical is how other clubs seem to be able to find strikers that can score goals, whereas we consistently struggle to bring goal scoring strikers into the club and have them perform to a decent standard on a weekly basis.

Swansea signed Joel Piroe from PSV in the 20/21 season, despite him having scored 2 goals in 18 at Sparta Rotterdam the season before. He managed 22 in his debut season.

Borja Sainz managed 18 from the left wing last season, having arrived from Giresunspor the season before on a free transfer.

Millwall signed 20 year old Mihailo Ivanovic from Vojvodina, but he bagged 13 in all competitions last season. They also made a decent profit on Zian Flemming.

Clubs around us seem to find these players no problem and then they move on for big profits, whereas we seem to just coast along happy to sign veterans and sick notes as if somehow it'll all come good.

It's like our brain team sat down to watch Moneyball and learn what it's all about and then turned it off when Peter Brand says "Billy, of the 20,000 notable players for us to consider, I believe that there is a championship team of twenty-five people that we can afford, because everyone else in baseball undervalues them" then loaded up Transfermarkt's free transfers page and started making phone calls.
 
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Steven Toast said:
For those wondering about non-fan based income for this season, to the best of my knowledge we will definitely get:

Just over £8m in TV money (£4.5m from the PL YV deal, £2.5m from the EFL, plus around 10x TV appearances @ £100k each).

Around £3.5m in solidarity payments from the PL.

Anywhere between £7k and £100k depending on how high up the table we finish.

So we're guaranteed at least £11.5m for being a Championship club.

Chuck in the sponsorship money and whatever we have made in player sales so far and we're probably at around the £15m mark. Which, isn't great to be honest.
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Compared to the Premier league and those with parachute payments it's pennies. High lights my earlier point about the game being ****ed.

The EFL should have supported the euro super league and kicked out all those who wanted to be in it.
 
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Compared to the Premier league and those with parachute payments it's pennies. High lights my earlier point about the game being ****ed.

The EFL should have supported the euro super league and kicked out all those who wanted to be in it.
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I think the relegated teams should have some of their costs covered by the PL using parachute payments, but also say they have a rule that they can't use any of that money on transfers or wages.
 
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So we’ve decided McBurnie is going to Swansea ? If it’s that easy why isn’t there any press or confirmation ? Is it the same for Frigan ?
Looked st Swans signings and they don’t blow your flip flops off never mind your socks !
 
springtiger said:
So we’ve decided McBurnie is going to Swansea ? If it’s that easy why isn’t there any press or confirmation ? Is it the same for Frigan ?
Looked st Swans signings and they don’t blow your flip flops off never mind your socks !
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Nixon reported Swansea being in the lead for him and then @NewcastleTiger said his mate in Swansea physically saw McBurnie down there (presumably for a medical).
 
Steven Toast said:
Every. ****ing. Season. Every Summer we repeat this same dance, it's like we can't help ourselves.

Yeah ok other clubs miss out on transfer targets, it's not that rare. But for us it's like this process we must perennially undergo, like some sort of weird ritual; we seem to have a big target identified in May, by June they're ready to sign, by July they're sat waiting and by August they've ****ed off elsewhere and we start the process all over again and we all go "oh well they can't have been that good then" as if somehow us dicking about or being **** at transfers is an indicator of player ability.

I'm not going to question why McBurnie fell through, or why Frigan didn't sign, that's obvious, what I will question is why we don't get this stuff sorted out in early June so that by the beginning of pre season, whichever position it we need to strengthen most, is done and dusted.

I'm going off the top of my head, but last season it was Kieffer Moore, the season before that it was Rak-Sakyi, before that it was Twine, who did eventually sign for us on loan and lasted until January.

This season we signed a centre half when we didn't really need one (though now we do, obviously) and two central midfielders we now can't play. We're ****ing mint we are.
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Agree with overwhelming majority of that......only bit I slightly disagree with is on the CB side of things, selling 3rd and 4th choice for a reported 2-3.5m and replacing with 2 frees looks like good financial sense, on the footballing side was v impressed with semi on sat too so there's potentially an argument about improving depth wise tho obv time will tell.
 
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Steven Toast said:
Josh Sargeant is a prime example of what can happen if you stick with a striker and give them time. Was crap in his first PL season, but Norwich stuck with him and he became one of the most consistent forwards in the Championship.

I think what pushes people to be critical is how other clubs seem to be able to find strikers that can score goals, whereas we consistently struggle to bring goal scoring strikers into the club and have them perform to a decent standard on a weekly basis.

Swansea signed Joel Piroe from PSV in the 20/21 season, despite him having scored 2 goals in 18 at Sparta Rotterdam the season before. He managed 22 in his debut season.

Borja Sainz managed 18 from the left wing last season, having arrived from Giresunspor the season before on a free transfer.

Millwall signed 20 year old Mihailo Ivanovic from Vojvodina, but he bagged 13 in all competitions last season. They also made a decent profit on Zian Flemming.

Clubs around us seem to find these players no problem and then they move on for big profits, whereas we seem to just coast along happy to sign veterans and sick notes as if somehow it'll all come good.

It's like our brain team sat down to watch Moneyball and learn what it's all about and then turned it off when Peter Brand says "Billy, of the 20,000 notable players for us to consider, I believe that there is a championship team of twenty-five people that we can afford, because everyone else in baseball undervalues them" then loaded up Transfermarkt's free transfers page and started making phone calls.
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However we have had a succession of managers who have failed to give strikers a chance in their actual position (LR with Ohio, Walter with Burstow, Selles with Joseph) and most of the time not playing football that is conducive to strikers getting chances and scoring.

I've got hopes that Jakirović's football is different and we might see the likes of Joseph actually get played up front and be on the end of chances.

The rest, as they say, is up to him...
 
The Frigan thing is funny because it was talked about as a loan with an obligation to buy after 12-18 months but the issue is that we cannot sign a player on loan with an option or obligation to buy under the current fee restriction. It prohibits us from paying a fee or even committing to pay for a fee.

I do wonder if Acun didn’t realise that and thought he could get around it. It wouldn’t surprise me in the least because it seems like he doesn’t understand the EFL’s rules in general, hence the late payment for Barry and Burns.
 
So, with three players injured and two having contract issues with the FA, this is what we have isn’t it?
 

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Jim the Tiger said:
Hughes could be our biggest ever transfer fee, I genuinely think he is the real deal. Could just sit and watch him all day. Still got lots to work on but if he carrys on developing at the same rate he will be a very expensive player in years to come.
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We won't hold him long enough to realise his full potential financially,especially if Illicali is here.

I think it's very early to be calling a fairly raw kid our biggest ever transfer fee but each to their own:emoticon-0148-yes:
 
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Ric Glasgow said:
We won't hold him long enough to realise his full potential financially,especially if Illicali is here.

I think it's very early to be calling a fairly raw kid our biggest ever transfer fee but each to their own:emoticon-0148-yes:
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Theres no way hughes goes for more than bowen, defenders dont go for big money unless theyre proven in the prem
he could be a league 1 player in 26/27 :bandit:
 
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