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Heimdallr said:
I don't think there was any evidence that the police beat him. They'd pulled his trousers down whilst restraining him/holding him up/dragging him and left him suffocating on the floor, whilst he had a head injury from an earlier fight. The CCTV recorded conversations between the custody sergeant and some officers where they discussed getting him medical help as there was blood coming from his mouth and he was making gasping sounds - the custody sergeant and a female officer stated that he was pretending. There was also alleged monkey noises being made by an officer as he was dying.

After the inquiry ended and charges to the officers dropped, they got paid off £50-100k for stress and pensioned off. The guy who originally hit him (his mate) got charged with gbh and then charges dropped three weeks after, once the post mortem results were released. He sued the CPS and police and got compensation.
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It was Jason Paul who was arrested for GBH, he got £30k in compensation for malicious arrest, as it was believed he was only arrested to deflect from the death in custody.
 
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originallambrettaman said:
It was Jason Paul who was arrested for GBH, he got £30k in compensation for malicious arrest, as it was believed he was only arrested to deflect from the death in custody.
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Ye, from the book, he attended the police station the day after, voluntarily, with a solicitor, and explained he hit his mate in self defence and they initially tried to pin murder on him. From the CCTV in the station, manslaughter from neglect should clearly have been the charge against the custody sergeant.
 
DMD said:
One of the bits I can't quite understand is why whoever actually gave him the injuries was never charged.
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Think when reported is was said that Chris Alder when in Waterfront had to be restrained by by a fair few Doormen/bouncers as he was going full on. He was a strong guy.
 
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Heimdallr said:
Ye, from the book, he attended the police station the day after, voluntarily, with a solicitor, and explained he hit his mate in self defence and they initially tried to pin murder on him. From the CCTV in the station, manslaughter from neglect should clearly have been the charge against the custody sergeant.
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Am I right in thinking the Police claimed that he had a history of faking unconsciousness?
 
Phinius T Bookbinder said:
Think when reported is was said that Chris Alder when in Waterfront had to be restrained by by a fair few Doormen/bouncers as he was going full on. He was a strong guy.
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The argument/theory was, that it shouldn't have mattered what happened before he was taken into custody and that he, like everyone else, had a right to care and to be protected.

The CCTV and transcripts were very damning - the custody sergeant was older, clearly negligent and playing the 'seen it all before' card and two of the officers also didn't perform their duties to the right standard. Their arguments were based on that he'd been signed out by A&E, whereas in fact, the medical staff were unable to do a proper check due to his condition. The alleged monkey noises were explained that one of the officers was taking the piss and imitating his gasping noises whilst he was dying.

The family and their supporters maintain that racism meant that he wasn't given the right standard of care, especially after a younger officer showed some concern and suggested a medical check, that was denied by the custody sergeant.

A messy case where the police and judiciary came out looking terrible. It's outrageous that officers were laughing and joking around whilst a man laid dying on the floor.
 
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All a complete contrast to the policeman with no thought to his own safety , who tackled the muderer with the sword down south who is to be sentenced today .
 
Heimdallr said:
The argument/theory was, that it shouldn't have mattered what happened before he was taken into custody and that he, like everyone else, had a right to care and to be protected.

The CCTV and transcripts were very damning - the custody sergeant was older, clearly negligent and playing the 'seen it all before' card and two of the officers also didn't perform their duties to the right standard. Their arguments were based on that he'd been signed out by A&E, whereas in fact, the medical staff were unable to do a proper check due to his condition. The alleged monkey noises were explained that one of the officers was taking the piss and imitating his gasping noises whilst he was dying.

The family and their supporters maintain that racism meant that he wasn't given the right standard of care, especially after a younger officer showed some concern and suggested a medical check, that was denied by the custody sergeant.

A messy case where the police and judiciary came out looking terrible. It's outrageous that officers were laughing and joking around whilst a man laid dying on the floor.
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Can’t disagree with any of that.
 
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Obviously it's a delight to read about the decline in crime rates since the 80's but I'm not so sure I'd be as comfortable if I were a female(or male) who had suffered through this type of heinous act...

The Scotland figures are as damning and in particular the City of Glasgow has seen an increase in rape crimes of 41% in the last year..
 
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balkan tiger said:
If only the copper had been armed with a gun rather than a wooded stick, then he could have shot him dead.
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I'm not sure they're comfortable using or carrying them anymore...Copious amounts of them were being handed back in after one or two recent events that cast doubt on the officers concerned.

Who would want their job anymore?
 
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Ric Glasgow said:
I'm not sure they're comfortable using or carrying them anymore...Copious amounts of them were being handed back in after one or two recent events that cast doubt on the officers concerned.

Who would want their job anymore?
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One of those incidents we discussed on here and the guy shot turned out to be a right wrong un. The copper ended up in court for murder/manslaughter (?) and I believe has had to go into hiding.

As you say who'd be a copper?
 
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balkan tiger said:
If only the copper had been armed with a gun rather than a wooded stick, then he could have shot him dead.
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I saw some bodycam footage earlier and it looked like he was holding a taser, so I'm not how the scrote with the sword got so close to him. Poor bloke nearly lost his thumb, he's had three lots of surgery and still requires two more, his hand's a bit of a mess.
 
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