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Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Bucky1989, Feb 6, 2025.

  1. JimHeron92

    JimHeron92 Well-Known Member

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    If we signed him he'd still have Saudi offers in a years time, he's only 28 :emoticon-0104-surpr
     
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    Okay genius. Thanks for the vote of confidence. If and when I give the slightest **** what you think I’ll give you a shout.
     
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  3. Southern A

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    I think just because we can spend £15m on him, and even if its a fair price, doesn’t mean we should. In the same way £40m is a fair price for Harvey Elliott, doesn’t mean we should pay it.

    Everyone seems universal in their assessment that he’s a bit crap at defending. And we’re a team who will be doing a LOT of defending.
     
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  4. JimHeron92

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    Leave my mate alone.
     
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  5. Flash Gordon

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    People are getting very hung up on fees and PSR. I'm sure we're all agreed that the club know the budget, financial situation, transfer market and PSR regulations better than any of us. So can we not just accept that any deal done deserves the benefit of the doubt and then we can judge a player purely on their merits as a footballer?
     
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  6. Frazier the Lion

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    Bang on. I’m there’s ultimate value at okay here but there’s also the value that he’d represent to US.
     
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  7. Southern A

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    agree with this. And it’s on his merits as a footballer that I don’t think he’s worth the fees quoted. That’s got nothing to do with not being used to the premier league, and everything to do with what we could get with that money if we didn’t sign him.

    all that said, I do trust the club 100% so will have to back him if he joins. I just think signing a defender who’s bad at defending is a bad idea in a relegation fight.
     
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  8. JimHeron92

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    Wonder if Bologna would be up for selling Juan Miranda?
     
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  9. Flash Gordon

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    Alternatively though, we're possibly spending £20m on a keeper upgrade, £15-20m on an attacking left back and £15m on a very exciting French winger. Given the profile of those players, you can only assume that there's better to come in positions of real need. Maybe we're not planning to be the team doing the defending.
     
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  10. Frazier the Lion

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    That’s my point though marra. I don’t think you can separate the two subjects. Any talk of the merits of a player has to involve the financial side, since it affects the other deals we can make. So although I trust the club not to spend us directly into oblivion, poor choices of player that don’t represent good value will inevitably hurt us in time.
     
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  11. Southern A

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    I appreciate what you’re saying but I think it would be naive of us to assume we won’t be doing a lot of defending, even if we have the best window of all time.
     
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    "Amadou Koné will leave Stade de Reims and sign abroad!

    The identity of the club has not been revealed.

    Which team could it be?"

    Was set to move to nice and suddenly changed his mind to go abroad..... Ghisolfi what are you cooking up my friend.
     
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    Hopefully a prem team in red and white stripes
     
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  14. JimHeron92

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    Check my edit :emoticon-0178-rock:

    Who knows
     
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    But as fans, we can differentiate the 2 because we're not the ones making those decisions. We simply don't know the opportunity cost, only the hypothetical opportunity cost.

    "X would be a better fit than Y is a fine discussion point."

    "We need to be conscious of that fee and a potential sell on value 3 years from now for psr purposes" is a pointless hill to die on imo when no-one knows what our financial situation is and when we've not even started signing players yet.
     
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    I’m not gonna lie when I sent that I somehow completely forgot Brentford also play in red and white stripes <laugh>
     
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    Which is a fair point, but if the club want an attacking left back, then I don't believe it's a decision made in naivety, I think it would be with a certain plan and style in mind that perhaps fans can't see yet.
     
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    agreed if they’re wanting to go 5 at back and play him wing back. But as the left back in a 4 I’d want somebody else
     
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  19. JimHeron92

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    Think I agree, any names spring to mind as I'm admittedly struggling a tad with left backs. It's quite the limited market and I'll I've got off the top of my head:
    Miranda
    Cardona
    El karouani
     
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    I heard something crazy about a dope midfielder being offered by his agent which i cant quite comprehend
     
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