The amount of times he could have thrown the ball 20/30 yards to set up attack and didn’t bother, he’d simply roll it to our full backs who pass, it was infuriating.
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The amount of times he could have thrown the ball 20/30 yards to set up attack and didn’t bother, he’d simply roll it to our full backs who pass, it was infuriating.
We have a goalkeeper that obviously isn’t great at it. So play a different way. The fact the goalkeeper can’t set a goal up maybe 3/4 times a season shouldn’t have a bearing on your style. If your goalkeepers average with his feet set your team up so he doesn’t have the ball 5o times a game.
I don't think it's as simple as that without entirely changing your style of play. Which is why managers tend to find it easier to replace the keeper with one who is better with their feet.
Looking at the fannying about at the back from the other angle, when there are two or three defenders and the keeper passing the ball about between themselves what are the forwards of the other team doing? If you take our game against Derby as an example Pedro and Palmer were chasing shadows, needlessly running back and forth never getting near the ball before the keeper hoofed the ball up field. Then the few occasions when we hoofed the ball up field they were too knackered to run and chase it.
I think the narrative that promoted teams like Southampton are failing due to playing out from the back is way over the top. They changed their manager and started playing off the big man up top and they've been even worse, yet still everywhere you look pundits are going on about Martin making them play out from the back. There was an Athletic article a few weeks ago about how they basically gave up on the season in the summer having accepted that their squad was nowhere near the level required. But no one wants to consider that when you can just blame it on a manager and rail against modern football.
Modern football to you though is just playing out from the back. Brentford have barely spent compared to some others who’ve come up and they’ve never been a team who relies on their centre backs and goalkeeper starting their attacks. Probably because their manager knows it’s not viable for a team without the quality to play through the ridiculous presses we see in the premier league now unlike managers like Martin, Kompany etc who force their players to do it and end up having terrible seasons.
Agree. For me that's the main point, and the basic fact, that their squads typically just aren't good enough over all. And it's getting a bigger and bigger bridge to somehow cross.
I also agree with the quality of the squad idea. But they don’t even try recruit for a potentially more safe gritty side that could keep them up. More teams should be signing physical ball winners that can defend deep, quick wingers for counter attacks and defenders whose first job is defending the 6 yard box, not playing passes in it.
Who's going down? Luton, Plymouth, Cardiff. Who from them could do a job in the Championship...?
Alli, Aasgaard, Bundu, Callum Robinson...after them I start to struggle..
I always thought Aasgaard was from Scandinavia, but now discover he's a flaming Scouser.....Near enough I suppose.
Alli, Aasgaard, Bundu, Callum Robinson...after them I start to struggle..
I always thought Aasgaard was from Scandinavia, but now discover he's a flaming Scouser.....Near enough I suppose.
I liked the look of Luton's Makosso when we played them, a young right sided centre back.
Martin was doomed from the off though. That squad was diabolically poor. Even if he had adapted I don’t think it would’ve made much difference.
Kompany on the other hand with Burnley probably could’ve made something out of it
Kompany did make something out of it by sticking to his principles. Burnley didn't oh well...
Aasgaard's dad was probably off one of the scandi ships docked in Liverpool.
Aasgaard is a Nowegian international (1 full cap, plus youth ones). I think he qualifies through his Dad.
Yeah because they spend £20m on Taylor Harwood Bellis who wasn’t even one of the best in the championship last season. £20m on Cameron Archer…. Ramsdale was the only good signing they made
If we can shift Palmer and Omur, I think Josh Windass would be a solid addition on a free. Especially if we can't get Gelhardt.
Yeh you will be hard pushed to find a lot of pace in an attacking mid. We need to address both power and pace but that will be out wide and in the striker area. He would be a good player to compete with Crooks and has pretty much always scored goals which is the other thing we lack.
