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Election 2024

Discussion in 'The Premier League' started by brb, Jan 18, 2024.

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How are Labour doing after their first month in charge?

  1. Excellent, Keir is my hero

    47.1%
  2. Ok ish

    11.8%
  3. It's been like a month of Sucky on weed

    23.5%
  4. BobbyD for Prime Minister

    11.8%
  5. Love not Hate

    5.9%
  6. Duggie wants his Winter Fuel Allowance back

    47.1%
  7. brb is **** at polls

    23.5%
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  1. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    What changes do you think they need to make ?

    I ask that as a genuinely open question.
     
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  2. brb

    brb CR250

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    I still think Labour would get in again.
     
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  3. Welshie

    Welshie Chavcunt fanboy dickhead

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    I've laid it out in long posts before, but fundamental changes to how we tax in the UK, how we treat services and corporations, I'd abolish the TV license fee and find other ways to relieve the tax burden in the UK on the lowest earners. Not enough people have money in their pockets, corporations (not individuals) get away with far too much while avoiding to pay into the system.

    The vast VAT exemptions, many of them have gotta go.
     
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  4. PINKIE

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    So basically make the rich pay their taxes and stop punishing the poor.

    I'm in <ok>
     
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  5. pieguts

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    I did ask the question on the GC politics thread a while back, but got the standard responses from the usual characters. To start with, I have no idea how to stop the undocumented migrants but am interested on how others think it could be achieved. How do we stop it?
     
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  6. Welshie

    Welshie Chavcunt fanboy dickhead

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    Some of the poor should be punished in other ways

    like how many of them are lazy ****wits without any parenting abilities and a dislike for work.

    The poor aint some perfect little group, a lot of them are poor for a very good reason
     
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  7. pieguts

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    We didn’t have local elections where I am?

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    Just googled it and our next local elections aren’t until 2027. Still none the wiser why that is?
     
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  8. brb

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    I think if you haven't got documents, and you have clearly come across from France ie by boat. We should have some agreement with the French as a joint coalition to send them straight back, then process them in France, and both countries then decide who keep them.

    I know that might mean they come back to us, but let's at least have a process to discourage anyone trying to buck the system, IF that is happening at all.

    I think it has to be a hard and fast rule, if you travel without documents, then you are going back. We can always make exceptions for countries where we feel they would not have had time to grab documents. I suppose it depends how often that is done, and is it a real problem or just media noise and are there certain nationalities that are doing it ie albanians etc.

    I suppose without seeing what is actually going on, it's a very hard question to answer and sending them straight back might be extremely unfair if cases are genuine. I don't really read anything around undocumented migrants, so I don't really understand what is happening, ie are they ditching documents or genuinly don't have them.

    I apply the above to adults, not to minors. Always help the kids whatever, I'm mainly talking about men. I think whatever we do can only work in agreement with the French, so they will want something in return.
     
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  9. PINKIE

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    Yeah I know, I was just trying to make a concise point <laugh>
     
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  10. duggie2000

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    Well as your are part of the problem what is your solution
     
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  11. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    You're
     
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  12. pieguts

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    I don’t disagree with the sentiment but I thought that once they reach international waters (the 3 mile rule) then the country that have come from (France) are not obligated to take them back and quite frankly why would France agree to this. They have there own issues with migrants. They can of course be sent back to their “home” countries but of course they have ditched any documentation before crossing the channel. This is the main issue for me, as the only way to process them is once the reach our shores, and during that process we are stuck with them. This is too late, we now have them.
    I’ve often thought that rather than keep giving France money that they happily accept but doesn’t improve the issue, we should try, and I use this term loosely, to put pressure on the counties they originally come from. Alternatively, we have to use our special forces to infiltrate these gangs that provide the transport and to put it bluntly, make this problem go away.
     
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  13. brb

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    This is the problem, too many legal loopholes and they know them all. We need to incentivise people having their documents, make the process easy for us, we make it easy for you. Think i'd need to also understand why anyone would want to ditch their documents, what are they trying to hide by doing that? So many different aspects to this that there is not a one solution that is going to cover it all...and when you do find solutions, people will say but yeah legally you can't do that.

    Edit: Your last sentence sums it up for me, make the problem go away exactly as you described.
     
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    Was it on here or another forum I saw post that Donald Trump is planning to rename the "San Andreas Fault" the "Joe Biden Fault"? <laugh>
     
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    Ffs. <laugh>
     
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    Working from Home proven to be just as efficient in most cases. Shows complete regressiveness and no idea what reality is. Cutting DEI- does that mean also for the disabled?
     
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    Another option is to stop the rights of passage to other family members if asylum is granted.
    It’s often said that the reason the majority of migrants are fit and healthy young males, is that they have the best chance of transiting through the various counties to get to the UK. Once they have been processed and given leave to remain, they then are able to send for their families who will then get the same entry rights as legal migrants. A simple solution to me, is to remove this right of passage for other family members.
     
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  18. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    I presume by stripping our equality measures it means, disabled, women, those with mental health problems, the elderly etc

    Basically anybody who doesn't fit the typical fit and healthy white male aged 25-55 bracket
     
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  19. FosseFilberto

    FosseFilberto Pizzeria Superiore and some ...
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    Labour have lost 186 Councilors ... the Tories have lost 674 ... almost the same number that Reform have gained ...

    If Labour have tanked - the Tories have super-tanked based on those figures <laugh>
     
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  20. pieguts

    pieguts Mentor

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    A lot of councils have sold their “real estate” to balance the books after years of underfunding. I’m not sure there is enough office space for the civil servants to go back to and they don’t have spare cash to rent more.
     
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