Off Topic Lord Mayor

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The people voted for Brexit, and we didn't get it, we voted for Boris thinking he would deliver Brexit, and we didn't get it, Brexit meaning, basically, stop the illegal immigrants coming across costing the taxpayer £8m a week in hotels alone and, instead put the British people first, but the peoples voice was ignored and on the back of that the Reform party filled the void. Today we all saw what happens when you ignore the people.

You got Brexit. If the practicalities of it are actually quite complex and difficult to make work, and if it turns out that it's actually significantly increased small boat crossings due to return agreements ending and a broken asylum system, that doesn't mean you didn't get it.
 
The people voted for Brexit, and we didn't get it, we voted for Boris thinking he would deliver Brexit, and we didn't get it, Brexit meaning, basically, stop the illegal immigrants coming across costing the taxpayer £8m a week in hotels alone and, instead put the British people first, but the peoples voice was ignored and on the back of that the Reform party filled the void. Today we all saw what happens when you ignore the people.

Net migration went up after Brexit by a whole lot. Net migration from the EU is negative post-Brexit but net migration from non-EU countries went up dramatically. In the crudest terms, we swapped tens of thousands of Poles and Romanians for hundreds of thousands of Indians, Pakistanis and Bengalis every year.
 
You got Brexit. If the practicalities of it are actually quite complex and difficult to make work, and if it turns out that it's actually significantly increased small boat crossings due to return agreements ending and a broken asylum system, that doesn't mean you didn't get it.
The country voted for Brexit but the Tory Government did not deliver it. That eventually cost them and as a result Labour won the next election on a landslide but with less votes then the Crobyn led Labour Party got in their worst ever General Election results. The emergence of the Reform party from the ashes of the Ukip/Brexit party put Labour in power by decimating the Tory vote. Labour are in power today by default and what a shambles we are in as a country because of it. But from little acorns...........
 
You got Brexit. If the practicalities of it are actually quite complex and difficult to make work, and if it turns out that it's actually significantly increased small boat crossings due to return agreements ending and a broken asylum system, that doesn't mean you didn't get it.

The politicians were so sure the people would vote remain they didn't even try to convince them to vote remain. Then when the people voted to leave the politicians didn't even try to make it work.
It could be said the times they are a changing, but the established parties will do all they can to keep the status quo. See also Germany, France, Holland and a growing number of other countries.
 
Scottish Water was my supplier at my flat in London, they were ****ing hopeless. It took them eighteen months to figure out they were billing me based on the wrong meter and they had to refund me a grand.
I have a feeling in my water (leave it Rover) that you may perhaps be confusing Scottish Power with Scottish Water. :emoticon-0138-think

The views expressed in my posts are not necessarily mine.
 
The biggest problem with Campbell being Mayor is that he’s a doofus with no political experience. A non-politician shaking things up might be appealing to those wanting to stick it to the establishment via an outsider to politics but he’ll end up being spit-roasted by the career politicians in East Riding Council and Hull City Council. He’ll be eaten alive by Anne Handley in particular as she is still the leader of East Riding Council. He won’t be able to hack the manipulation, backstabbing and cunning of local politics and won’t have an independent thought of his own beyond what Farage instructs him.
 
The biggest problem with Campbell being Mayor is that he’s a doofus with no political experience. A non-politician shaking things up might be appealing to those wanting to stick it to the establishment via an outsider to politics but he’ll end up being spit-roasted by the career politicians in East Riding Council and Hull City Council. He’ll be eaten alive by Anne Handley in particular as she is still the leader of East Riding Council. He won’t be able to hack the manipulation, backstabbing and cunning of local politics and won’t have an independent thought of his own beyond what Farage instructs him.
Deja Vu.
 
The politicians were so sure the people would vote remain they didn't even try to convince them to vote remain. Then when the people voted to leave the politicians didn't even try to make it work.
It could be said the times they are a changing, but the established parties will do all they can to keep the status quo. See also Germany, France, Holland and a growing number of other countries.

Germany have just shown how anti democracy they are!
 
The people voted for Brexit, and we didn't get it, we voted for Boris thinking he would deliver Brexit, and we didn't get it, Brexit meaning, basically, stop the illegal immigrants coming across costing the taxpayer £8m a week in hotels alone and, instead put the British people first, but the peoples voice was ignored and on the back of that the Reform party filled the void. Today we all saw what happens when you ignore the people.
Sounds like quite the re writing of history that.

Brexit can’t have been about stopping illegal immigration because those from EU countries weren’t illegal and everyone knew that Brexit meant ditching the return agreements which would have made it harder to return non EU people to EU countries.

I assume it was about reducing the amount of EU people coming here, as that would happen as a result, but it was always going to make it harder to return non EU citizens. Someone maybe got the nett figures wrong.

Labour are deporting far more than the Tories did too.

TBH I always thought Brexit was just about reducing red tape so rich people wouldn’t have to bother themselves with EU labour and environmental laws so they could make more money for themselves?
 
Sounds like quite the re writing of history that.

Brexit can’t have been about stopping illegal immigration because those from EU countries weren’t illegal and everyone knew that Brexit meant ditching the return agreements which would have made it harder to return non EU people to EU countries.

I assume it was about reducing the amount of EU people coming here, as that would happen as a result, but it was always going to make it harder to return non EU citizens. Someone maybe got the nett figures wrong.

Labour are deporting far more than the Tories did too.

TBH I always thought Brexit was just about reducing red tape so rich people wouldn’t have to bother themselves with EU labour and environmental laws so they could make more money for themselves?

Cheaper food and lower taxes were promised to be the outcome of Brexit by the leave coalition. To be honest, I'm surprised that the senior Leave politicians such as Gove, Johnson etc haven't been lynched for lying. Whilst politicians are allowed to lie and walk away enriched, nothing will change for the better.
 
Sounds like quite the re writing of history that.

Brexit can’t have been about stopping illegal immigration because those from EU countries weren’t illegal and everyone knew that Brexit meant ditching the return agreements which would have made it harder to return non EU people to EU countries.

I assume it was about reducing the amount of EU people coming here, as that would happen as a result, but it was always going to make it harder to return non EU citizens. Someone maybe got the nett figures wrong.

Labour are deporting far more than the Tories did too.

TBH I always thought Brexit was just about reducing red tape so rich people wouldn’t have to bother themselves with EU labour and environmental laws so they could make more money for themselves?

The old EEC worked because all the member countries were similar economically, once it grew to the European Union and the poorer countries joined it was obvious that people would move in order to better themselfs often to the detriment of the locals.
 
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