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If you think what happens in the royal is farcical, you go and have a look where public funds are going when state funded services are getting outsourced to private companies to deliver such as community care, community therapy etc. particularly the more specialised ones.
 
State-owned enterprises (SOEs) are often claimed to be less profitable and less efficient compared to private corporations. According to Grout and Stevens (2003), SOEs were associated with different types of market failure and were mostly used to attain non-economic goals such as unemployment level reduction, control over natural resources, and political stability. Shirley and Walsh (2000), who surveyed 52 studies on the difference in performance between SOEs and private corporations, discovered that there were only five studies indicating that SOEs outperformed private corporations. However, these studies only monitored the firms in the monopolistic utility sectors. Similar situations occurred in most of the previous studies that researched correlation between performance and firm ownership. Many of them either focused heavily on industries with monopoly/oligopoly characteristics or industries with output that could not be priced by competitive forces. As a result, it was difficult to distinguish the effects of market regulations and conditions on the types of firm ownership. Since there is a correlation between competition and performance, controlling for the market structure is crucial to the proper investigation of performance across different types of ownership (Goldeng, Grunfeld, & Benito, 2008). Since my research is focusing on the difference in performance between SOEs and private corporations within a competitive environment, it contributes to the very few studies that controlled for the market structure. My main research question is whether private corporations perform better compared to SOEs in terms of profitability and efficiency in the strategic sectors in a competitive environment. My hypothesis is that due to the soft-budget constraint behavior and policy burdens imposed by the state, SOEs are less efficient and have lower profitability compared to private corporations.

https://digitalcommons.iwu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1458&context=parkplace

I would have thought it fairly obvious that overall SOE's would be less profitable and less efficient, as many don't have profit as an aim at all. The NHS being the obvious example, an enormous organisation that provides a great service, but I don't think anyone actually thinks the NHS is efficiently run. Having been unfortunate enough to have had to spend a month in Hull Royal not long ago, it's almost farcical watching what happens day to day in there.

Does anyone think Network Rail is well run? Or the Post Office? Who was it that decimated the UK car industry, or the British steel industry? They were all poorly managed and the lacked investment required to keep them competitive. Not all SOE's are poor and there's still some decently run services within poorly run organisations, but overall the major organisations run buy the state have been very poorly run.

I'd go into more detail, but it would breach the rules.
But I wasn’t talking about state run organisations, or profitability.
Can’t quite remember but I think it was about ‘waste’
You won’t get an argument from me that hospitals aren’t efficient, but they’re part of a system commissioned to carry out work and doctors for example are all small private sector organisations.
I’ve seen waste in the public sector, such as local govt, reduce massively due to budget reductions and having to do more with less, and I’ve seen vast amounts of waste in large private sector organisations where they pay massively over the odds for things (which worked out ok for me thanks) because there’s so much money sloshing around.
I consider the profit gained from every part of a private sector organisation every time something is bought in as waste, the same as in a SOE, whereas if an efficient public service delivered it well, and they often do now, there would be less profit taken out and therefore less waste
 
March 20 (Reuters) - Tesla was removed from the Vancouver International Auto Show in Canada because of safety concerns, the event organizers said on Thursday.

"The Vancouver International Auto Show has removed Tesla as a participant in this week's event, after the automaker was provided multiple opportunities to voluntarily withdraw," Eric Nicholl, executive director for the auto show said.
 
"Safety concerns"..... I think he misspelled, your political views are different to mine haha

Way too much focus on the share price (up 4% today!)... It's always traded like a cryptocurrency... It crashed over 50% in 2022/2023 and then rallied back up to new highs in December/January 2024.. the big hitters are long from way below these levels and probably using all these dips to buy more. As with all tech companies, what's for sale on the street now was developed years ago.. so it's impossible to say what might be produced over the next few years.

It's clearly for political reasons because of what's happening between the Us and Canada and tit for tat. Fun to watch from afar!
 
"Safety concerns"..... I think he misspelled, your political views are different to mine haha
I think the safety concerns are probably about the tendency for their motors to spontaneously burst into flames, seems reasonable.
 
The anti-Tesla stuff is hilarious, seeing as it's largely coming from the same people that hailed it as the engineering miracle helping to save the planet not all that long ago. ****wits setting fire to the supposed low emission vehicles really can't seem to see the irony. <laugh>

Oh, and the anti-billionaires involved in the background thing is equally amusing, given the support or silence about the likes of Gates, Soros and Schwab, but that's drifting towards politics.

Basically, pompous hypocrites rarely see why they're funny.
 
The anti-Tesla stuff is hilarious, seeing as it's largely coming from the same people that hailed it as the engineering miracle helping to save the planet not all that long ago. ****wits setting fire to the supposed low emission vehicles really can't seem to see the irony. <laugh>

Oh, and the anti-billionaires involved in the background thing is equally amusing, given the support or silence about the likes of Gates, Soros and Schwab, but that's drifting towards politics.

Basically, pompous hypocrites rarely see why they're funny.


I suppose when you live in a black and white world
 
Just been reading the tragic story about how the woke mind virus killed Musk’s son. This probably explains his behaviour, he’s likely suffering from PTSD and struggling to come to terms with his loss.

He's just such a ridiculous individual, and it's a sad indictment on society that he's able to maintain a position of such relevance and influence despite it.
 
He's just such a ridiculous individual, and it's a sad indictment on society that he's able to maintain a position of such relevance and influence despite it.

He's said some ridiculous things that are offensive to many. Buying twitter was ridiculous. He's built up/built several billion dollar companies... And become one of the wealthiest ppl of all time. That's why he has relevance and influence - it's no different to any extremely wealthy individuals since the beginning of time, using their wealth and power to influence politics.

For whatever reason, he's got involved in social media wars and become the enemy of the 'side' that originally supported him - not sure why he's done/doing it. Turn off the 'internet' noise and he's built up one of the most valuable car/tech companies in 15 years, a global satellite system and a space travel company that is now more advanced than NASA in many ways - we just choose to focus on what is most relevant for us - for many, it's the social media statements he makes. Trump will be gone/dead in a decade and the stupid liberal Vs conservative division will be a past memory - we will always be wanting to explore space and have more advanced tech.
 
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Musk didn’t get paid for rescuing the astronauts. He did it using one of his rockets. Good publicity for Space x after a series of setbacks. The success of this will improve its prospects. That is why he is a successful billionaire whilst those mocking him aren’t.Seems not only is there TDS but also MDS.
 
Musk didn’t get paid for rescuing the astronauts. He did it using one of his rockets. Good publicity for Space x after a series of setbacks. The success of this will improve its prospects. That is why he is a successful billionaire whilst those mocking him aren’t.Seems not only is there TDS but also MDS.

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