Off Topic What is a woke thing?
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It was a long time ago…. I still smile when I think back but them my back give out a twing and I then think, thank the lord it’s not now, she’d bloody kill me lolI sincerely hope she was better looking,
I'd have to care first.
The Scottish Prem is ****ter than ours but I don't care about that being before the Champ either. Encouraging growth in the Women's game by giving it prominence is probably a good thing though. The men's game seems to be doing OK.
I would give prominence by people watching the games. Wonder how many were at the women’s games tonight? Not that they will be issuing attendances for a lot of them. Why should you give prominence to something there is little interest in?
The thing that most people don’t consider about “cancel culture” is that it’s fundamentally a free-market, capitalist response.
For example, no one was saying Roy Chubby Brown couldn’t perform. In fact, the opposite is true because promoters and theatres booked him and gave him a platform. However, people didn’t buy tickets because there’s no demand, so they pulled the shows. Theatres don’t book performers that don’t fill seats. It’s not a moral decision, it’s a business one.
Another example is Kevin Spacey. No one is stopping him from being in films, he just doesn’t have enough star power for movie studios that want a name that sells tickets. Demand for films starring Kevin Spacey is too low. Again, not a moral decision, but a business one.
Then you have JK Rowling who, despite her transphobic views, still has an agent and publisher because Harry Potter is currently in demand and is extremely profitable. If “cancel culture” was a moral response and the “woke mob” had any tangible power she’d have been dropped years ago.
People complain about “woke lefties” on social media ruining careers, but really it’s management and executives making financial decisions in the name of profit.
To answer the original question of the thread, “woke” has become a term used by right wingers to disparage anything or anyone that has the decency to be compassionate to others.
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To cap it all, the wife (from Panama), alluded to in the attached tome, did con fez her hubby was beret close to the truth.
She may have been talking a load of pith of course.
She may have been talking a load of pith of course.
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Woah, woah, woah. Isn't that cultural appropriation then? Not having that - you've offended me. His best shag ever's about to be cancelled.
From memory, I've only slept with two short-haired girls, so it's clearly some kind of subconscious lack of attraction in it. One was an elfin English girl with disappointingly deflated tits (maybe had kids) and the other, a German with a killer body beneath her academics clothes, but hairy pits. Many years ago though.
But right now, as I'm working onshore on a rig, I'd take one with a crew-cut and a swastika on one tit and a pic of Harry potter on the other. Actually, as I got the short straw and sharing a room for several days with three sweaty, farting Scots, I'll probably even take a trans by the end of the week... But hopefully a Thai one, rather than the speccy bloke in a wig that seems to be the UK version of them.
I don't like the term Woke and don't use it, it's an Americanism and they have a different political history to us. I prefer straight forward rightwing/leftwing, too many people disparage the other side as extremists when they are not usually, just right or left of centre, the left started this with disparaging anyone more right wing as fascist and I see the more left wing as what they are, leftwingers, in England a woke opinion is a liberal opinion.
I would cite the fact that classic books such as "Of Mice and Men" and "To Kill a Mockingbird" - which have been used for years to highlight the wrongs of racism - can no longer be used to teach GCSE English because they contain racist language, as an example of cancel culture.
I, too, am a stickler for injustice. It's why my old forum name was 'Kicking Back'. I even started this thread as a response to something I had read. Having said that, I do think it's an interesting topic to explore, because people regularly throw that word around, and it's never really made any sense to me.
Injustice though, comes in many forms, big and small, and the word 'woke' seems to be applied haphazardly to all of them, which, in my view, somewhat dilutes any meaning, if there even was one.
You could also argue that certain musical artists have become victims of cancel culture - or at least censorship - in recent years. So for example, you will not hear the original versions of the following songs on the radio anymore, because the lyrics might offend someone:
Fairytale of New York - Pogues/ Kirsty
Oliver's army - Elvis Costello
Peaches - The Stranglers
There are probably loads of others but those three just sprang to mind. That said, censorship is nothing new to the BBC. In the 60's they would only show Elvis Presley from the waist up, and the Stones hit "Let's spend the night together" could only be played with the lyrics changed to "Let's spend some time together."
In the 70's they banned the Sex Pistols "God save the Queen" and in the 80's Frankie Goes to Hollywood, "Relax."
All goes back to freedom of speech / expression and who decides what we can say or hear
The books were removed from the syllabus by the exam board, WJEC. It was a reactionary decision made by executives in suits afraid of possible backlash and not a collective societal rejection of something, so I’d argue it’s not an example of “cancel culture”. In fact, I think that if it were put to most people the books would be reinstated to the syllabus.
Think it's another one if those things that at the starting point was actually a valid comment, but as time has gone on its been used to a ridiculous level to the point where using it in any way other than sarcastically just makes you look like a twat.
But there's definitely elements of 'woke' that exist that are rightly pointed out, but in saying so it almost loses any argument you use it in.
It's getting that way with 'far-right'. There's definitely an element of far right that needs stamping out, but when everything is far right, nothing is.
But there's definitely elements of 'woke' that exist that are rightly pointed out, but in saying so it almost loses any argument you use it in.
It's getting that way with 'far-right'. There's definitely an element of far right that needs stamping out, but when everything is far right, nothing is.
I'm sure someone just said something about 'those dumb enough to find injustice in everything' ...
Myth: American classics like Of Mice and Men and To Kill a Mockingbird have been banned from English literature GCSE.
It is nonsense to say any authors, books or genres have been banned. Exam boards have the freedom to include a range of set texts in their specifications, and teachers are as free to introduce children to the brilliant writing of Lee and Steinbeck , and other US writers, as ever.
What we have given exam boards the opportunity to do is broaden - not narrow - the range of books young people study for GCSE.
Our subject content for new English literature GCSE sets out simply the minimum pupils will need to study - a Shakespeare play in full, poetry from 1789 including the romantics, a 19th-century novel, and fiction or drama from the British Isles post-1914. Beyond this, exam boards have the freedom to design specifications so that they are stretching and interesting, and include any number of other texts from which teachers can then choose.
This means pupils will study a broader and demanding range of literature than ever before. We want to expose children to works that will engage and challenge them and give them a rigorous basis in the study of literature.
It is nonsense to say any authors, books or genres have been banned. Exam boards have the freedom to include a range of set texts in their specifications, and teachers are as free to introduce children to the brilliant writing of Lee and Steinbeck , and other US writers, as ever.
What we have given exam boards the opportunity to do is broaden - not narrow - the range of books young people study for GCSE.
Our subject content for new English literature GCSE sets out simply the minimum pupils will need to study - a Shakespeare play in full, poetry from 1789 including the romantics, a 19th-century novel, and fiction or drama from the British Isles post-1914. Beyond this, exam boards have the freedom to design specifications so that they are stretching and interesting, and include any number of other texts from which teachers can then choose.
This means pupils will study a broader and demanding range of literature than ever before. We want to expose children to works that will engage and challenge them and give them a rigorous basis in the study of literature.
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