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  1. Red Alert

    Red Alert Well-Known Member

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    that wasnt an answer to them questions, my kids have values installed in them and I search them for weapons and drugs. think your kids are not coming into contact with kids with weapons and drugs dream on all kids where i live BS4 reality is they will its become normal.
     
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  2. AshtonRed

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    I don’t have kids, and it was an answer, I explained how I was as a kid, actually I did have a knife when I was in the scouts and we did used to play the game where you threw the knife in the ground and had then to put your foot where it landed, or something like that, wouldn’t have ever considered using it on anyone though.
     
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  3. Red Alert

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    your noted for swerving questions and you served mine.

    Heres the post.

    Heres the answer.

    Its not an answer to what you were asked. as a parent you dont know 24/7 and you are not with your kids 24/7 and when your not its 100% inevitable your kids are going to be coming into contact with kids with weapons and drugs. our kids go to same schools and live in the same streets. outside your house its got to be the police policing the streets. theres got to be stop and search and info led policing. Parents cant be the police and if you do? you'll put you and yours in danger.
     
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    I’ll try again for you. Put in words of one syllable, don’t have kids, , no . Better?
     
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  5. realred1952

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    BACK IN THE DAY the local bobby would clip your ear... and though in my case he [main one ]was a friendly neighbour think there was at 2 of them maybe 3 covered where I lived when he had his helmet on you well truly had the fear of god in him. There was one family really mischievious and unruly and far from honest!!! ... one occassion their children did something that had to go before the local JP... parents and kids .. guilty and had to pay... they wouldnt didnt or couldnt ... the local bobby was on there their case for ages [ month's ] every little misdemeanor he would haul them up kids and or parents ... the husband "broke first" one of his kids did something and victims dad went round to see him perps dad ... a argument occurred and the victims dad was man handled and finished on the ground... plod had been called as it started and got there at the point dad was on floor [ we were in crowd watching!! ] plod arrested him and contacted police station in SHEPTON who sent a vehicle and he was arrested never returned to the town for about 6 weeks or so .............. they had to move as shops wouldnt serve them pubs had banned them and kids were shunned when they turned up for school.....

    now I am not saying that we should adopt that approach but .... back in the day borstal used to be a deterrent !!! and when older, prison even more so [ no tele or modern day softyisms back then ].
    irrespective of the age assault with a deadly weapon is serious ... part of school learning maybe 1 lesson a week should from an age from say 7 0r 8 eight upward deal with crime and consequences. Maybe a double period lesson in any subject could end with a 20 -30 min session on crime... thats every week or maybe fortnight .. emphasis on the penalty you will serve! and the effect on the victim ... then after you have served how your life as a criminal will defeat you actually getting a decent job etc.......
     
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    its called parenting!! what you do is explain to your kids or even grand kids what life is all about what is wrong and what is right ...told the story many times on here about my grandad [ blinded in WW1 had 2 fingers and a thumb on half his left hand and 2 fingers and a thumb on his other half a hand ... he made mats! ] FROM AGE OF ABOUT HE TAUGHT ME TO READ and told me what to expect from life [ as did to a point my parents ]
    A PARENT STATES TO HIS CHILD you do not carry a knife and you do not stab or threaten anyone with one or else you will feel the wroth ... or I will go to jail and you will be punished also!
    If the child ignores you he will suffer the consequences himself or to you going to prison. # theres a wider picture but not now on this post!

    Every "friend I had " before about 1960 used to wear daily a sheaf knife , 4" was quite a small one! I was a scout leader after the cubs! as a cub had a sheaf knife that was about 4 half crown width's and 5 when in the scouts. It had a leather handle in the cubs but horn in the scouts.......... When I 13 I bought one at the BATH AND WEST SHOW WITH A 6" BLADE,, my school a boarding one took it off me till end of term ..but allowed us carry pocket knives with a 4-5" blade and a "spike for horses hooves or other uses on the farm!!! It had rough black handle blade folded into with a ring to attach to string or cord or clip onto belt ......

    I also from 2000 completed my opinel set from a n0 1 smallest to no 15 ! still have abouts 6 iof them in coth ferrous and INOX i GROUND THE TIP TO LESS THAN 75mm on one of each of the number 7
     
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  7. Red Alert

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    Question was how do you know? and if you do all the things you say and life for your kids turns badly should you be held responsible for doing your all to be a good parent?

    Reality is where i live knives have gone into schools, our local clubs and kids hanging round parks will have weapons and drugs. kids have been stabbed couple of hundreds metres from where we live. our kids KNOW kids stabbed and those carrying out the stabbing and kids in gangs because we live near them. do you stop your kids going to school the local youth club the park? being out on their own?
     
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    RA it is a difficult scenario to actually have a fool proof answer to. CORRECT you cant monitor your kids 24/7 maybe 12/7 and 8 of them they are asleep! but it is based on trust and honesty. I have had 3 kids and still in contact with 3 grand children. Until mid 70,s I got through at least 5 tins golden virginia and about 200 ***s a month my firsy missus smoked a little .. but in the first marriage the 2 kids never smoked and to my knowledge to today never took any drugs. and have never been in any bother. Second marriage wife smoked about 100 ***s a week our daughter to this day never smoked and never did drugs never been in bother .. 3 grand kids are the same ... it was down down basically to do as we advise ... note advise AND not what we do ... I "dont smoke, second wife has stopped..eventually! .... never been in bother.
    what do they do when they go out .. are they deceitful? ... I would say 99% not.. I/we always encouraged them when at schooling age along with their friends always in holidays etc we had an "open door" a shoulder to .... and an ear for listening or giving advise! Also that telling tales out of school was WRONG but telling tales about serious things would always be sacrosanct .... they all knew it! SO IF ONE STEPPED INTO THE DARK... they could not be sure if there indiscretion would get leaked!
     
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    630 miles is a long drive and done on 2 wednesdays PMQ'S .... I dont have any leaning at present to any party, I hear what they say weigh up the argument and interpret the result based on ........!

    both PMQ'S 2 teir granny Harmer I think lost out on both the last 2 . didnt really give an answer and certain things between on and between the 2 Gave Kemi a real edge.

    Basically 2 TEIR, until the PMQ'S before the latest has knocked and ridiculed and cancelled most of the tory plans. In fact things like the NHS and building Hospitals etc he has poo pooed as not taking place or hasnt been built [ thats just 1 thing]!! But in one of his attempted answers he made an error with regard to financing....... he stated Boris .gov promised this that and the other but certain things didnt happen where did the "so called funding go that was going to to do these things"???? WHAT he forgot to add in to his comment was the reason work had not started .... THE missing £400 + BILLION thats £400,000,000,000 up to Dec 31 2021 SPENT ON COVID ...ADD IN lack of building materials and loss of income due to lock downs meaning less tax income and you have a different picture!

    This weeks PMQ'S he was merrily stating, and gloating over that they moving on with 3 or 4 major " plans" and in her answer to them KEMI says the PM has a short memory they are all projects the tory party had lined up to do and his opposition voted against them [ or was obstructive with them! ..TRUE TO FORM 2 Teir never answered the reply.
    After one of 2 TIERS COMMENTS regarding legal stuff .. Kemi retorted maybe he should go back to be a lawyer as he was not a politician or a leader .. his retort was not in response but brought up "personalized attack" on someone else and he wouldnt be dictated to...........

    ministers are flooding the media with all their different ideas .. and when you try and find a logical joining point you cant . that Eagle MINISTER YESTERDAY ON r5live Made a statement and the presenter was in full agreement with what she said /pointed out! She then had to be 5 times that he agreed as each time he said I agrreeee she said what I ............ and replied with 5 comments to try and embellish what she had stated which made her look really dumb and understanding .............

    HOW TO stop the crossings .... take away their phones. lap tops and any electrical devices..... uuuuuummmm Well Eagle that will lighten the load and allow another 2 0r 3 extra passengers!
     
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    You cannot wholly. A parent of a child is not responsible for a crime committed by their child if they have provided reasonable care, supervision, protection, and control over children. Many crimes children commit are unrelated to their parents and the way their parents raised them as they have raised their children in loving supportive environments, and outside influences have been the drivers of offending - Parents do not tell their children to possess knives, carry knives, use knives etc this generally comes from the influence of peers and the community the child is surrounded by.
     
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    EAGLE came out with her "plans" going to pinch their phones etc but also stating that if the boat they are in will not stop to be turned back and insist even if in difficulty they wish to continue then they will all be arrested and face prison! WELL IN JANUARY there was 1098 crossed......... we have just released 1000+ plus criminals to make space ... so in 1 week no free spaces!
    Asked about her plans not being preventive or dissuasive / deterrent and no signs of a decrease in fact looks like increase of numbers and legislation maybe taking 6 month's or more have you any plans to cope with the increased numbers likely to arrive ... that is stop them? ANSWER.............. no.. thats ... N O
     
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    PMQ's well worth a watch! Facial expressions and speech delivery somewhat "stressed" by 2 tier Granny Harmer. And the 2 harbingers [ a person or thing that shows that something is going to happen soon, especially something bad ] in camera with dead pan faces hardly gave a smile but a couple faint smirks. In fairness whilst HE didnt actually answer any questions fully but was happy slinging or trying to mud at individuals, there was a very faint/weak response to some of the Q's .. but in the main dodged the issues.
    He is beginning to show cracks... the harbingers are lurking and next few month's could show a serious financial crisis for a lot of the population. BEAR IN MIND .. some will be in the tax system for the first time .. some of the greedy [ rail ] will be 40p payers.. companies start paying vast amounts of their employment payments via NIC's s like to start "shortening process" .. less overtime/ not employing to replace leavers/ not taking on temporary staff/ Electric due to rise ... rates due to rise... will inflation follow latest figures due soon [ should be down around 1.9 - 2.1% as forcast back in June 2024 and interest [ BOE] at around 4.75% or 4.5%.......

    News is .gov has nowborrowed £8,000,000,000 to fund GBE which is likely to produce a 1000 jobs ..... over the next 20 years!!!!!!!!!!!! and it doesnt actually produce anything!

    so far 2025 1356 have crossed the channel adding around £6,100,000 ++ to the bill without all the extra's involved with rescue/ staffing/ etc's another? £3,000,000 not bad for 5 weeks ! [ about £93,000,000 for this lot for the year ]
    hint convert your money to gold/silver/ or copper!!!!
     
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    Global finance experts have delivered a damning verdict on the state of the UK economy and blamed Chancellor Rachel Reeves.

    S&P Global said: "Concerns about squeezed margins, weak customer demand and lacklustre UK economic growth prospects were all cited as weighing on business confidence in January."
    In a new report looking at the state of the UK economy, the New York-based finance firm said businesses did less work in January than previous months "and the pace of job shedding accelerated to its sharpest for four years."
    It said the state of the global economy was a factor, but much of the blame lay with last year's Budget which increased National Insurance for employers, pushing up the cost of employing people.
    The report warned: "While some service providers commented on the impact of global economic uncertainty and elevated interest rates, many firms also linked lower new orders to weaker business confidence in the wake of the Autumn Budget."
     
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    Yet we've got all these billions spare to pay off Mauritius (£18bn - just ridiculous) and to blow on the Net Zero schemes that we don't need. What British people and business want is cheaper energy.

    Many people in this Government, and the Tories before them have got their own agendas and their own hill to die on/personal crusade which has consumed and blinkered them, and which is not what the silent majority in this country want.

    When we need common sense, again, and there's none to be found.

    British business is being killed and no one can see it, while the rest of the world thinks we're bat sh*t crazy in our pursuit of just total stupidity.
     
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    people smugglers now using bigger boats with a capacity of over 70 -80, 145 landed in 2 boats yesterday

    reminder this is not the real number that cross 100's make it by other means....
     
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    not good for savers having a large interest cut but it is a sign of "panic" ! It is designed to make more people borrow and spend more, this leads to a another future financial blip when it has to adjust itself after the feel good factor wains!!!!
     
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    From the Daily Telegraph
    The Bank of England has cut its 2025 growth forecast in half and warned that Rachel Reeves’s record tax raid risks driving unemployment far higher than expected.

    Officials believe the economy will barely avoid recession as the Bank cut interest rates by 0.25 percentage points to 4.5pc, with two officials calling for even steeper reductions.
     
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    we are gradually confirmation of 2 of the [ many ] dummies trying to make GB ...... great again? ........ uuuuummm ? no got that wrong not having a clue what to do, or able to answer Q's ..Darren Jones and Ed Milleband ... today......

    Many BBC [ breakfast ] viewers who tuned in left many comments online after Ed appeared on the show. One person said: "Brilliant questioning Charlie."
    A second person typed: "Great questions from Charlie. Miliband utterly clueless. Does anyone believe him, no."
    A third said: "'This Labour government is not about lobbying' The man is a truly witless, shameless plonker! Period."
    A fourth agreed: "Miliband no idea at all," as a fifth also chimed in: "Ed Millheheheband what a joke."

    Labour plan in build up to GE WAS to reduce utility bills [ gas electric] by more than £300 per annum? = result is likely to cost double that saving in the next year ..........

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    more and more companies are moving their shares to other countries in the past 6 month's London Stock Exchange used to be one of the top 2 or 3 ... sliding down the scale , a bit like 2 tier granny Harmer's ratings
     
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    cats out of the bag £22,000,000,000 [ = to the so called dreamt up black hole ] it is the gamble being spent on the unproven/ unlikely to work Ed Milleheeheeband carbon capture programme. It means we all have to pay for it about £800 or so for all 28,000,000 households in the uk via higher bills and taxation!
    keep em coming Ed .... you will soon be accepted as an official clown me thinks!
     
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  20. Angelicnumber16

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    Thousands of British millionaires and billionaires have also left this country since the lunatics took over the asylum
    They all know they will be hammered for tax and other punative robbing of their money, so they’ll take their entrepreneurial skills abroad where it might be appreciated

    And Labour are still pushing diversity at our Universities and spending loads of money on pure nonsense
    They’ve clearly not recognised what’s going on in the US or grasped the fact that a lot of British people don’t want it
    Rachel from Accounts could save us some money, and some credibility by shelving this for good
     
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