Off Topic What are people’s thoughts about this?

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Right,I'm going to have a go at this..:emoticon-0102-bigsm. I should mention I'm happily heterosexual, married to the same lovely lady ( NO!) for over 50 years...3 children.
If we're at a friend's for dinner and I'm presented with a meringue for dessert....I'll decline and won't eat it.....I don't like meringues. I understand many people like them,and I really don't mind if they eat them,but I won't partake.
I look at the LGBT community in much the same way..... I have no desire to campaign against it....it just isn't for me. As with the meringue,I won't engage with it,but if others think it's ok,that's fine with me.
However,if our host was suggesting to me that, by not eating the meringue, I was being critical of meringue eaters,discriminatory or disrespectful towards them,and therefore a horrible person,and they can't,or won't,understand that I don't like it,I would take issue with them.
I would say that just because I don't openly support your meringue love-in,doesn't mean that I don't respect the right for people to have their own views,or want to disrupt it,but you have no right to expect me to engage with it and fly the meringue flag. In the same way as you demand respect for your ideals,you have to respect mine. You have no right to force your beliefs on others or to label them if they disagree with you.
Is that a fair view?
Absolutely this. Well explained.
 
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Right,I'm going to have a go at this..:emoticon-0102-bigsm. I should mention I'm happily heterosexual, married to the same lovely lady ( NO!) for over 50 years...3 children.
If we're at a friend's for dinner and I'm presented with a meringue for dessert....I'll decline and won't eat it.....I don't like meringues. I understand many people like them,and I really don't mind if they eat them,but I won't partake.
I look at the LGBT community in much the same way..... I have no desire to campaign against it....it just isn't for me. As with the meringue,I won't engage with it,but if others think it's ok,that's fine with me.
However,if our host was suggesting to me that, by not eating the meringue, I was being critical of meringue eaters,discriminatory or disrespectful towards them,and therefore a horrible person,and they can't,or won't,understand that I don't like it,I would take issue with them.
I would say that just because I don't openly support your meringue love-in,doesn't mean that I don't respect the right for people to have their own views,or want to disrupt it,but you have no right to expect me to engage with it and fly the meringue flag. In the same way as you demand respect for your ideals,you have to respect mine. You have no right to force your beliefs on others or to label them if they disagree with you.
Is that a fair view?

Equal rights for meringues.
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You are what ever you identify as Smug. If you think you’re a meringue then that’s what you are. Alternatively you can be an egg custard or an Eton mess.

That's the problem though isn't it, as Popeye said 'I am what I am'.

I'm actually a 69 year old man who's closer to death than birth, facts. Identifying is vague because if I identify you as a man that's my business, irrespective of what you decide you are.

You can decide what you'd like to think of yourself as but it's quite often totally meaningless ...

... the people who believe they have two genders are wrong, they don't.

A man who has feminine traits, as well as masculine is still a man ... just greedy <laugh>
 
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I tried meringue at uni. After a few pints of home brewed ale I was rather giddy. Next thing I knew a friend and I were eating meringue on his bed. It was an interesting experience but not one I’ve ever repeated.
I’m not bothered either way about gay pride stuff. I do find the current fad for transvestites showing off on tv annoying.
 
That's the problem though isn't it, as Popeye said 'I am what I am'.

I'm actually 69 year old man who's closer to death than birth, facts. Identifying is vague because if I identify you as a man that's my business, irrespective of what you decide you are.

You can decide what you'd like to think of yourself as but it's quite often totally meaningless ...

... the people who believe they have two genders are wrong, they don't.

A man who has feminine traits, as well as masculine is still a man ... just greedy <laugh>

As you can probably imagine in this day and age the online training i’ve to continually do reminding us how to speak to people, how to avoid violence in the workplace, being inclusive etc all that unimportant shyte is becoming longer and longer every year. 10 minute refreshers have turned into 60 minutes of nonsense. Had an email trying to encourage those within the company to add their pronouns to their work signature. Worlds gone absolutely f*cking mad.
 
As you can probably imagine in this day and age the online training i’ve to continually do reminding us how to speak to people, how to avoid violence in the workplace, being inclusive etc all that unimportant shyte is becoming longer and longer every year. 10 minute refreshers have turned into 60 minutes of nonsense. Had an email trying to encourage those within the company to add their pronouns to their work signature. Worlds gone absolutely f*cking mad.

I really feel sorry for you mate, it's becoming ridiculous, as if offices aren't bad enough.

You'll end up where Brian decides he's Bianca and asks to be know as she ...

... then decide he liked being Brian so goes halfway back and demands to be referred to as 'they'.

Just when everyone starts being able to remember he'll meet some hot lass and revert to Brian <laugh>

You'll end up with everyone having to wear a pronoun lanyard so people aren't accused of misgendering or deadnaming someone ...

... and booking this act for the Christmas office party.

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I really feel sorry for you mate, it's becoming ridiculous, as if offices aren't bad enough.

You'll end up where Brian decides he's Bianca and asks to be know as she ...

... then decide he liked being Brian so goes halfway back and demands to be referred to as 'they'.

Just when everyone starts being able to remember he'll meet some hot lass and revert to Brian <laugh>

You'll end up with everyone having to wear a pronoun lanyard so people aren't accused of misgendering or deadnaming someone ...

... and booking this act for the Christmas office party.

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Millions of years of evolution, through thousands of years of social normalcies, and hundreds of years of science and laws, the written word and hard facts. Now, over the matter of the last 5-10 years, its to be expected of us to tear up the rule book? Not possible for me. I'm an easy going person. Anybody can be whoever they want to be. But when some insist that my beliefs, ideas and understanding, should evolve with them? And their insistence thrown about with such militancy? Sod off!
 
Millions of years of evolution, through thousands of years of social normalcies, and hundreds of years of science and laws, the written word and hard facts. Now, over the matter of the last 5-10 years, its to be expected of us to tear up the rule book? Not possible for me. I'm an easy going person. Anybody can be whoever they want to be. But when some insist that my beliefs, ideas and understanding, should evolve with them? And their insistence thrown about with such militancy? Sod off!
Spot on <ok>