So you are happy if you are fined £10,000 because you didn’t support a Newcastle goal at the same match. I feel you are being deliberately argumentative just for the sake of it.
Yeah, there's a realistic situation where I'd be fined for not supporting a goal... I'd say you are being deliberately obtuse to support your homophobic leanings...
Best way to confirm the concession of an argument is to start abusing the other person. Cheers for the insult, makes me feel all warm and fuzzy to be abused by a homophobe
TBH I was using that phrase to make a joke about Gregg Wallace. Let them crack on . I don't mind, I haven't actually watched the link so as I am not really interested. I just don't like it linked with football (Which is an issue for a different thread) as I didn't like the BLM knee kneeling brought into it. Now people on the internet nowadays will jump on that comment and instantly say RACIST, GAMMON, Etc I just want to concentrate of the football and use football as a release from what's happened during the week at work etc. The way it always was. Doesn't matter if you are straight, gay, white , black, whatever at all, lets just concentrate on the football and stop using it as an advertisement for things not related to football.
They already have the freedom to be who they are ... ... shouldn't people who don't want to devote a month, and taxpayers money, to a particular group have the freedom not to participate. You say 'gay' but that's only one part of this movement, there are other more contentious issues that aren't part of our laws. There are people in this self-elected group who want children to be allowed to medically change their sex, have drag queens in primary school reading stories and lower the age of consent. It has nothing to do with what happened centuries, or even decades, ago. those rights are now enshrined in law. If people are forced, against their will, to 'celebrate' the beliefs of other people it's a very slippery slope we're on ... ... would you accept being forced to celebrate if your council/workplace/social club decided to support a group that wants pre-teen children to be able to choose their sex medically? Would you stand in the car park, during your extended work break, waving their flag?
I know it isn’t and that was exactly the point I was making. Someone’s sexuality is their own choice. A long time ago and in a different life I read something that an eminent judge said. Whilst I can’t quote it verbatim it was something very similar to, everything in this country is permitted except that which is expressly prohibited. We don’t want to turn into somewhere like North Korea where that is turned in its head, which seems to be the case in Emo.
Right,I'm going to have a go at this... I should mention I'm happily heterosexual, married to the same lovely lady ( NO!) for over 50 years...3 children. If we're at a friend's for dinner and I'm presented with a meringue for dessert....I'll decline and won't eat it.....I don't like meringues. I understand many people like them,and I really don't mind if they eat them,but I won't partake. I look at the LGBT community in much the same way..... I have no desire to campaign against it....it just isn't for me. As with the meringue,I won't engage with it,but if others think it's ok,that's fine with me. However,if our host was suggesting to me that, by not eating the meringue, I was being critical of meringue eaters,discriminatory or disrespectful towards them,and therefore a horrible person,and they can't,or won't,understand that I don't like it,I would take issue with them. I would say that just because I don't openly support your meringue love-in,doesn't mean that I don't respect the right for people to have their own views,or want to disrupt it,but you have no right to expect me to engage with it and fly the meringue flag. In the same way as you demand respect for your ideals,you have to respect mine. You have no right to force your beliefs on others or to label them if they disagree with you. Is that a fair view?
It certainly is, and it's similar to mine . . . . they can do what they want as long as it doesn't affect me and I'm not expected to celebrate it like it's something that I really like Regarding the o.p., to ask a whole town to celebrate something that they might not agree with (to tick a box ?) is blinking stupid.
They have that freedom and can celebrate it 365 days a year … … why do they need to force other people into celebrating it for a month?
My point isn’t personal … … it’s that people regularly come onto threads ‘they have little interest in’ then keep posting. It’s almost like he’s saying ‘don’t you people have better things to do’.
