Match Day Thread Hull City v Sheff Wed

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I'm very sure why he left, my friend is an agent and told me what he was like months before any of this. I know of another CEO who would sign unknown ex academy lads or league 2 players for the huge club he worked at selling them to the owner as big prospects and then he and the agent would share the agents fee. Poor kid spends a year or 2 in the reserves of a club he isn't cut out to be at, the manager knows what's happened bur can't speak out and the owner, in this case, was in America signing cheques.

Does this scenario sound familiar? Whatever happened to some of those lads we signed as future stars? Vaughan Covil anyone?

Does this explain the signing of Yuriel Celi?
 
I think once Walter goes, more and more supporters will start to realise the manager is the least of our problems. The owner is a megalomaniacal crook who resembles a modern-day Roman emperor whose attempts to win over the plebs with his gaudy ‘bread and circuses’ routine will get very old very quick and we’ll see his true colours soon enough.

It will end in tears. Walter at least can escape this circus and he will be better off for it. It’s us, the supporters, who will continue to suffer.

I don't know anything about the owner outside of the club, so can't comment on that, but Walter certainly isn't the least of the problems.. repeatedly using a system that the players can't or won't play is the on pitch problem that can be changed immediately.
 
I might have been a little delirious by the end of last night, or I might have just dreamt this, but did we really finish last night's game with our best central defender hooked, a right back trying to defend across the whole backline, 3 strikers on the pitch, none of whom are capable of scoring in a brothel and conceding a goal which was actually three Wednesday players just playing a training ground game of footy tennis.

I dreamt all that right?


Yes it’s all our dreams come true:

We’ve had Walterball Alpha.

Last night was the release of Walterball Beta (almost perfect product). Hold on to your hat for the shortly to be released Gold Standard Walterball……

He considered registering the trade name Walterbollocks but wanted to better convey his exciting, often hairy football style so – Stand Back, he’s going to release his “Hairy Wollocks” Brand at the Boro game!

Let’s hope his kids aren’t there!
 
I noticed that and I was surprised when 21,000+ was announced. But its still 21,000 ( minus 2,500 away fans) who have bought into this if they are there or not. How many of those absent members will be considering cancelling if this continues?
That’s the concern I think.
As you say with the previous feel good factor there were a lot of fans keen to put money into the club even though results weren’t suggesting we’d get promoted
 
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Doesn't have to be a fee involved to buy a player for there to be an agents fee though. If that's what they're splitting the. It could happen with any player
As you will know there will be patterns. Same agent being used for several transfers. Players being signed and not used or loaned out etc.
 
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I’m really hoping the new manager will get some confidence into the players and play with reasonably basic tactics for a while.

Are the current players good enough though?

Pandur - good shot stopper, no issues.
Coyle - works hard but needs to stop crossing with his left foot. Would love him to be more vocal to the team during the game.
Jones - steady eddie, not had a good season but he’s good enough for champ.
Hughes - love him.
Drameh - NOT a left back. Tries hard but out of position
Simons - not good enough for me I’m afraid
Slater - shackled by Tim’s system.
Puerta - looked a world beater 10 games ago but hasn’t done much since. Again a victim of Tim’s midfield abandonment.
Kamara - not a fan of his at all I’m afraid. He’s the love child of Jason Lokilo and Malcolm Ebiowei.
Longman - he’s alright, needs to be on the left.
Pedro - not a lone front man in a million years. Needs way more support around him but expecting him to lead the line with his attributes is borderline insanity.
Agree with most of this, however regarding Longman and Kamara they were both played on the wrong side last night except, except for the very last part of the first half when they switched and looked FAR better, which, for a short time, made the whole team look better and more balanced.

I thought that this had been an instruction from the manager, only to see Longman replaced by the ineffective, on the wing, Omur, and Kamara switched back to his ineffective left wing on the restart. So thinking about it now I can only surmise that the short period switch at the end of the half was solely down to the players, and that during the halftime team talk Walter let them know that he wasn’t happy about it.

Did anyone else pick up on this, or am I wrong?
 
The ones that spring to mind are

Harry Vaughan
Henry Sandat
Bora aydınlık

I think this is being overegged a bit;

Vaughan was being admired by a lot of clubs higher up as he was playing men's football at a young age, like Sandat was. Players like that will always attract bigger clubs looking for a bargain because they play for clubs that won't charge the Earth to sign them. Bora was different, I think that was a case of taking him to look at for the U21s (which is odd given that his signing was made out to be a first team one) and then Fenerbahce wanted more than we thought they did. He's on loan in Turkey's fourth tier at the moment, so it's not as though he's making big strides.

Celi was one of the best young players in Peru and got capped at a young age, so again, clubs were interested.

I'm not saying that it's impossible that there's some shenanigans with agents going on, but the players mentioned all have different agents so to me it seems very unlikely and more a case of poor scouting/poor development.
 
Agree with all of this, however regarding Longman and Kamara they were both played on the wrong side last night except, except for the very last part of the first half when they switched and looked FAR better, which, for a short time, made the whole team look better and more balanced.

I thought that this had been an instruction from the manager, only to see Longman replaced by the ineffective, on the wing, Omur, and Kamara switched back to his ineffective left wing on the restart. So thinking about it now I can only surmise that the short period switch at the end of the half was solely down to the players, and that during the halftime team talk Walter let them know that he wasn’t happy about it.

Did anyone else pick up on this, or am I wrong?
I know, I was happy when I saw them finally switch sides, unfortunately it didn’t last but Longman kept holding his shoulder.
 
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