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Why say “Your”. He’s not my choice but he’s manager of Bristol City so he’s “our”
I want to add my name to that comment, LM is our 'Gaffer' and I fully support him and his efforts, Nige is part of our history, he did a good job for us whilst the then 'Gaffer' but his time is over, it's up to LM now to retain our support and move up that table.
obviously I’m behind the team and gaffer.
But he ain’t no upgrade on Nige as said facts are facts.
Today he needs result and improvement if not I reckon he is a gonner.
But you’re only partly mate. As you’ve covered an angle in that statement. You want him to succeed as it benefits us all, but equally want him to fail to say “upgrade my arse”.
What “facts” say he isn’t? The only “fact” we can draw from at the moment is his league finish last season after taking over, and the “fact” there is, he finished higher than Nige did the previous season, and he hadn’t spent ANY money then to achieve that.
What you really mean is, in your mind you liked Nige, probably as you view him as a good old fashioned ‘football man’; whereas you don’t view the likes of LJ, DH and LM in the same manner. Not saying that’s a bad thing, it’s your choice, but you can’t say it’s “fact” he isn’t an upgrade, or at least reserve judgement until he’s had 1 full season in charge.
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you cant upgrade a manager based on different circumstances he is our manager with our squad at present playing in a league that so far, is far from being organised structurally , just look at the overall results ........................
I disagree to a point John
The top 9 in the Championship currently, with the possible exception of Blackburn, you could have got 100% right by writing down the likely contenders in June or July
From what I’ve seen so far we are not capable of breaking into that pack of teams or staying there even if we do
That top eight is the teams who will be there come the end-20% of the season gone-we are no where near those teams.
For me we haven’t shown any improvement since Manning has been here, and at the end of the day that’s what he’s judged against. Judge him on his record and I’m afraid it isn’t good. We have a tough run of fixtures after the International break and he has to improve, honestly I can’t see it happening, but would love to be proved wrong.
The only surprises for me is that I wasn’t expecting Coventry or Luton to be so far down the league at this point
Should we lose the next 3 (Boro, Stoke and Leeds) which is entirely possible, I think the board have to act quickly and dismiss Manning unfortunately
But the trouble is, who would we attract should a new Manager be needed ?
We are competing in one of the most keenly contested leagues in the world and we could do with some pedigree
If Manning goes I hope the board will recognise the error of their ways in appointing a L1 manager with no Championship experience
But I’m not hopeful they will
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The trouble is it’ll be the same people that chose the next manager, we need experienced football people higher up. JL and BT I’m afraid is where the problem lies.
although only a DIY formula to do the forcasts my 3rd tranche of it came up with EOS ...... [ Burnley top ]
BASED SOLELY ON POINTS [gd means nowt at this time of season, till about game 30 !? ]
1 Burnley ………………. 93 ...............3
2 Middlesbro ………….. 92 ...............9
3 Leeds ……………….... 89 ...............5
4 Sheffield Utd …....… 85 .................1
5 Sunderland …...……. 77 ..................1
5 Stoke ………..………… 77 ..............................17
7 West Brom …………… 75 ............. 4
7 Bristol City …………... 75 ............................14
9 Norwich ……………… 68 ...............7
10 Watford ……..……… 67 ..............6
11 Blackburn …….……. 64 ...............7
11 Coventry …………….. 64 ........................20
Thats the top 12 3 of my prediction are bottom 12 instead of being top 12!
the 3 [ 4 ] taking the places of the outside the top 12 on points is are
Oxford / Swansea/Derby/Hull 10th
effectively "13 teams in top 12"
BASED SOLELY ON POINTS [gd means nowt at this time of season, till about game 30 !? ]
1 Burnley ………………. 93 ...............3
2 Middlesbro ………….. 92 ...............9
3 Leeds ……………….... 89 ...............5
4 Sheffield Utd …....… 85 .................1
5 Sunderland …...……. 77 ..................1
5 Stoke ………..………… 77 ..............................17
7 West Brom …………… 75 ............. 4
7 Bristol City …………... 75 ............................14
9 Norwich ……………… 68 ...............7
10 Watford ……..……… 67 ..............6
11 Blackburn …….……. 64 ...............7
11 Coventry …………….. 64 ........................20
Thats the top 12 3 of my prediction are bottom 12 instead of being top 12!
the 3 [ 4 ] taking the places of the outside the top 12 on points is are
Oxford / Swansea/Derby/Hull 10th
effectively "13 teams in top 12"
As can be seen from the current table their is already 5 points less from top team to 9 games last season.
19 points was second team last season.
City have lost v 7th and 10th..............
this season looks to very much a year of just below top quality teams! [ above average for about 7 or 8 ]
19 points was second team last season.
City have lost v 7th and 10th..............
this season looks to very much a year of just below top quality teams! [ above average for about 7 or 8 ]
He's had over 40 games in charge that's fair to judge him imo, but I can see him getting us relegated.
With Manning in charge and if the tactics and performances don’t change we’ll bd lucky to get 50 points
75 points is a pipe dream as things stand
not this season we wont maybe after the break we see a slightly different line up... maybe Fally starting?
when at OXFORD he used different starting line ups the odd player rotation [ without replaced being injured on the bench ] 4 - 1 - 4 - 1 was a favoured one of 3 of about 5 used ..........
we seem to start every game 4-2-3-1 so opposition can plan against that.
having watched 6 of our games it does seem we "lose" a lot of the ball in centre circle area from goal keeper up field or hoof its! intentional or otherwise
We went with an experienced manager in Nige, but it didn’t get us any further. Was that down to JL and BT, if so, then maybe they are there issue.