Off Topic Major incident in Southport

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Two tier policing. Police from all over, dispersal orders versus letting it happen in Sunderland.
 
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Now it looks like the freedom fighters have decided their cause isn't worth fighting for there's been no real disorder since last Tuesday. The aftermath will see dozens of misguided people locked up for months, even years, because they allow the likes of Farage to wind them up.

Sadly it's them who'll pay the price while he plays the victim and claims he was 'only asking questions' ...

... he's a great one for photos, in their pub, with the lads but wouldn't have any of them in his house.

What a despicable man.
 
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Two tier policing. Police from all over, dispersal orders versus letting it happen in Sunderland.

could we please stop using the phrase ‘two tier policing’?
It’s a far right slogan most recently spread by Farage, Musk and Yaxley-Lennon. It seems to be creeping into everyday conversations, and accepted as truth.
It’s nonesence!
The fact is, the Police nationally, were blindsided and when the next wave of riots were planned, they were prepared.
Roll on the sentencing!
 
Now it looks like the freedom fighters have decided their cause isn't worth fighting for there's been no real disorder since last Tuesday. The aftermath will see dozens of misguided people locked up for months, even years, because they allow the likes of Farage to wind them up.

Sadly it's them who'll pay the price while he plays the victim and claims he was 'only asking questions' ...

... he's a great one for photos in their pub with the lads but wouldn't have any of them in his house.

What a despicable man.
Farage knows exactly what he is doing. Pushes all the right buttons with what he considers his "useful idiots" but does not cross the line of incriminating himself. He is an evil, devious and dangerous man.
 
Farage knows exactly what he is doing. Pushes all the right buttons with what he considers his "useful idiots" but does not cross the line of incriminating himself. He is an evil, devious and dangerous man.

I'd love every immigrant, who doesn't benefit us, to stay away.

I'd love the world to become so settled that people want to stay in their own countries.

I'd love everyone who feels disadvantaged in the UK to feel valued.

None of that will happen, no matter how many taxi drivers are dragged out of cars to be beaten.

Only tolerance, hard work and negotiation will ever work.
 
could we please stop using the phrase ‘two tier policing’?
It’s a far right slogan most recently spread by Farage, Musk and Yaxley-Lennon. It seems to be creeping into everyday conversations, and accepted as truth.
It’s nonesence!
The fact is, the Police nationally, were blindsided and when the next wave of riots were planned, they were prepared.
Roll on the sentencing!
I can use whatever terms I like if they’re not against the law in some way shape or form. My belief is they did know what was about to go down and it was allowed to happen. I have pictures of the police in Sunderland on the afternoon of our riots and they had numbers then. The bit they did get blindsided by was the attack on the mosque on Chester Road. At that point they should have called in reserves that should have been on standby due to intel and had a dispersal order in place. But if it makes you happy I will just say that (as often occurs) NP operates and messages about Newcastle differently to Sunderland.
 
I'm not saying youre wrong mate, just don't understand why that would happen.
They would/should have had intel. The coppers I was talking to in Keel Square on Saturday said there were people from all over the country “protesting”. If they didn’t have intel then that is very poor and is shocking. I work on the basis that these people are being monitored all the time and what was going to happen would have been known about. Hence, dispersal orders and the required resources should have been in play. Letting it kick off to then crack down on it (in a place that has been put forward as racist as we (as always in elections) declared first means they also can hide behind these are bad people. Keir gets to play the tough man and we get to wash over the problems people have with uncontrolled immigration for a bit. Maybe I’m too cynical in my late middle age.
 
They would/should have had intel. The coppers I was talking to in Keel Square on Saturday said there were people from all over the country “protesting”. If they didn’t have intel then that is very poor and is shocking. I work on the basis that these people are being monitored all the time and what was going to happen would have been known about. Hence, dispersal orders and the required resources should have been in play. Letting it kick off to then crack down on it (in a place that has been put forward as racist as we (as always in elections) declared first means they also can hide behind these are bad people. Keir gets to play the tough man and we get to wash over the problems people have with uncontrolled immigration for a bit. Maybe I’m too cynical in my late middle age.

It's a possibility mate but I just don't buy it myself tbh.

Police officers and others could've easily died, in Sunderland, and there didn't look to be much cracking down.
The blame is all on the rioters and, in my opinion, bringing in the first dispersal order would've been called an infringement of people's basic civil liberties. Allowing Palestinians to protest, then denying white people the same opportunity, would be the absolute definition of two-tier policing.

Until it became a riot it could've just been a peaceful protest ...

... only the rioters were responsible for that.

I also don't believe these far right people are being constantly monitored. They're usually just mouthing off on the internet and don't often show their faces, it's not like they're the IRA or whatever. And, as far as Newcastle is concerned, they didn't need a dispersal order, there was no one to disperse. By that time the threat of being locked up had put them back in their box imo.

Personally I think the government are just as concerned about uncontrolled immigration as we all are ...

... it's the means to control it that's the problem, every thing the Tories tried just kept making it worse.
 
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Very much looking forward to his demise. He’s providing all the evidence that a court may want that his ridiculous lawsuit is without basis. Combine that with the Tesla - X pyramid scheme that he’s set up and he’s probably a few misjudged posts and a ketamine binge away from being out of the public sphere permanently.
 
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