I was under the impression that the work she was doing was because they’ve looked at the contingencies over a year ago and they were going to be stretched. I agree they will find homes for everyone convicted. Just means the release rules will be relaxed even more, which could result in mistakes being made and the wrong person being released who are regarded as safe but aren’t.
She could be working on the results of the last contingency planning exercise.. I feel for your sister it's a very high pressure job at times like this.
Sadly it's one of those cases when it's irrelevant despite how serious it is. If someone has served 9 years 11 month of a 10 year sentence they're going to be released next month no matter how safe or dangerous they may be. It's daft when people say someone shouldn't have been released because they've reoffended. If you followed that to it's logical conclusion no one would ever be released. A high percentage will reoffend. Keeping someone in for the full 10 years isn't going to make them any safer. The authorities might be certain they'll commit another crime but they don't have the power to keep them in.
I follow your logic Smug, but the analysis sounded like it was being done at a further distance than at a month out and the least of the most likely to reoffend. Murderers and rapists kind of groupings who’ll be getting freed up for bin pushers and bottle throwers. Probably need more prisons and some of them hard labour focussed.
My logic followed, well done mate, I lose meself sometimes What I'm saying is that, although we all get precious about jail time, it's more ethereal than it seems imo. For example, if a murderer is doing twenty years and is now released a year early, there'll be an outcry by many. In reality, well Smug's reality anyway, it really makes no difference. Keeping him in for another year won't suddenly 'cure' him and murderers are probably less likely to reoffend than burglars. The public likes to see criminals 'pay the price' but it's out of revenge more than practicality. No doubt the first time one of the early released reoffends someone will post it and say 'told you so' but keeping them in is only delaying that offence for a few months. And someone who's served 9 years, of a 10 year term, has been punished ... ... meanwhile the public, at least some, want to see these rioters punished out of revenge and to stop others doing the same. It's not perfect but none of it is tbh.
You’ve hit the nail squarely on the head when you say revenge. It’s one of the many reasons I’ve been against the death penalty for decades now. To me it is the ultimate in retribution justice. The system isn’t there for that. It should and at least in the UK and here in Australia and in most European countries be used to exact justice in itself.
Don’t think there’s any evidence that hard labour improves offending rates. Prison should serve two fundamental purposes, public safety and rehabilitation. Of course consequences of poor/ criminal behaviour is a significant part of that but I’d rather equip most criminals with the tools to behave and work on release than flog them to death. Probably like most things a bit of both needed.
I’d just like to see them put to some good use whilst they’re there. Don’t need to flog them to death.
I’m not in favor of the death penalty. But occasionally I think it would justified. Like the recent scumbag who sexually abused a little girl and threw her little brother off a cliff to stop him talking. The boy survived somehow. We’re going to be looking after this person for the next 30 years and I wouldn’t be upset if he was killed and thrown in a lime pit.
It’s a strange one the death penalty. I’m against it but if was a prisoner with 20 + years of sitting in a 8x8 box for 30 years, after a couple of years living in fear of your life daily I think I would prefer it. So knowing that I’m happy they have 30 years of immeasurable suffering.
Went into town after the match, bit of a stroll round then a couple of pints at Sam's Bar. Nice to see everyone, people of all creeds and colours, just getting on with life. No tension, if anything I got a sense of people being nicer than normal to each other as if to prove a point. My town.
Excellent. I see the new Sheepfolds has been really busy with our game on earlier today. A cracking addition to the city
It's also nice to see so many police in the city centre. I think that calms people down just seeing police there and it scares the chavs and neck enders away.
Absolutely fantastic venue. First time there today and it was bouncing! Pleased we got there early and got a seat. Highly recommended. Going back next weekend before the game
It's worth clicking onto the link, a very good read. Sunderland’s anti-riot stance shows how football clubs and cities are proudly united Jonathan Wilson "The game is now how many places express their existence and identity, so that it is in effect another theatre of conflict Sunderland on the axis running from the 2,000-capacityEmpire Theatre and its associated arts spaces through the office development on the site of the old Vaux Brewery to the football venue." "Friday 2nd August was opening night for Sheepfolds Stables, a £4m entertainment venue on the north bank of the Wear that replaces the scrapyards and derelict land that used to lie between the Stadium of Light and the river, with bars, restaurants and event spaces. People who were there spoke of an enjoyable evening of live music and drinking in the sunshine. A footbridge is being built to link Sheepfolds and the stadium with Keel Square, which lies a couple of hundred yards upriver of the traditional city centre. There is a conscious effort to refocus Sunderland on the axis running from the 2,000-capacityEmpire Theatre and its associated arts spaces through the office development on the site of the old Vaux Brewery to the football venue. After years of stagnation, there is finally a sense of progress." https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...ies-proudly-united?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other
Brought the police in from all over. We had police in Sunderland today but they couldn’t have put the cat out if it had acted up.
