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I think under FFP there was a limit to what Ülker/McVities could ever put in through sponsorship. Whatever the reason for the deal ending, it can't cost us so much that we have to have a fire sale. We already know the reasons players have left anyway.
 
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Other than Tufan, we've not got rid of anyone we didn't expect to see go.
Exactly.
On the flip side, the really surprising thing is we didn't expect to have made zero signings at this stage (18th July, towards the end of pre season training camp, ahead of a prestigious friendly, etc). Still not panicking and still trusting in Acun & Tan, but it is now getting a bit silly, even worrying.
(I don't count Giles as he was already here last season).
 
For absolute pathetic prices
A lot of folk are saying this, about Greaves and Philo I suppose, but is it right, what would be more right and why? What is the going rate for a young, leftie CB with PL potential? Have others been traded this window to set a guideline? I don’t know the full detail of the Philo deal, it seemed complicated so I don’t know if it was good or not.
 
A lot of folk are saying this, about Greaves and Philo I suppose, but is it right, what would be more right and why? What is the going rate for a young, leftie CB with PL potential? Have others been traded this window to set a guideline? I don’t know the full detail of the Philo deal, it seemed complicated so I don’t know if it was good or not.
£8 million profit on one season is insane.
£16/18million (+ add ons) for a player many would have been happy to see go for £5 million only a season ago is also insane.
 
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£8 million profit on one season is insane.
£16/18million (+ add ons) for a player many would have been happy to see go for £5 million only a season ago is also insane.

Who was happy to sell him for 5m a year ago? Didn't we turn down 8m for him two years ago?
 
if we have lost this massive backer, is this why we are having a fire sale ???

The backer would have no difference what we able to spend. Newcastle are finding out that having the wealthiest backers in the world does not mean a lot when rules determine how much you have to spend.