The Politics Thread
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Putin-backed traitors patting each other on the back. String 'em up.
I am pro-PR and have been for years. However, I also have the right to be thankful that for once the ridiculous FPTP system prevented the growth of a populist xRW 'company' masquerading as a political party.
But I suppose that the benefit of not having nominal intelligence
The problem with PR is that you get weak government. The party with the biggest share is always having to appease the nutter minority to be able to govern. If this election had been decided on PR, the Tories and Reform would be able to coalesce to prevent Labour having any meaningful say. Under FPTP, Labour can make decisions.I am pro-PR and have been for years. However, I also have the right to be thankful that for once the ridiculous FPTP system prevented the growth of a populist xRW 'company' masquerading as a political party.
But I suppose that the benefit of not having nominal intelligence
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I didn't miss it...
Trouble is that he was replaced by an even more hardline nutter from Jim McAllisters party.
SF now are the largest NI party in Westminster and still will not take their seats. But the pressure is now well and truly on them to deliver and not just criticise.
Same will go in November in the Irish GE, although if the local elections are a signpost then they may well lose a lot of seats.
We should make one of the Sinn Fein MPs speaker and then dub his voice on broadcasts, just for old time's sake.I didn't miss it...
Trouble is that he was replaced by an even more hardline nutter from Jim McAllisters party.
SF now are the largest NI party in Westminster and still will not take their seats. But the pressure is now well and truly on them to deliver and not just criticise.
Same will go in November in the Irish GE, although if the local elections are a signpost then they may well lose a lot of seats.
You are right of course, and at this particular juncture I think a large majority for a single party offers the best option to try and salvage what's left of the UK.
I just think that in any functioning Democracy, there has to be a more equal division of votes/seats.
It's a dichotomy of course and I stand accused of blatant hypocrisy!!
On the contrary, the nutter minority is usually completely ignored by a coalition of parties which means the Government better represents the electorate.
It astounds me that after 45 years of british politics moving to the right so much so that we have a Labour party right of Edward Heath's or Harold Macmillan's tory party you don't get it. During this period our society is more and more polarized between rich and poor and your solution is to want more of this 2 party dictatorship. Under this system the politicians chose rather than the voters. Most countrys in Europe have PR and most have introduced more radical changes than the UK. The UK is now bottom of the league in areas like wages, pensions, health, infrastructure, housing. The UK is failing and will continue to fail. PR government is not weak government it is government that has to listen to the voters. Our pathetic MSM and TV is fuelling the misinformation and continues to ignore the real issues to focus on scandal. The UK is asleep politically. The ONLY other country in Europe that uses FPTP is Belarus.
I'm not defending FPTP, but pointing out that PR has flaws too.
Given the way we see MPs conduct themselves in Parliament, I wouldn't hold out any hope of PR working here at all.
We would be left with small groups of representatives, many holding polarised views, who would be unwilling to cooperate and compromise. If you look at the share of the vote at this week's election, representation based solely on PR would result in an ineffective Parliamemt, unless coaltions were formed, which isn't necessarily what voters have voted for. Labour can't govern alone with 34% of the representatives; Reform could cause a lot of mischief.
Some hybrid system (see Germany) might be fairer, but would not be guaranteed to work. How PR could be implemented would need a great deal of working out.
Your second sentence here exposes one of the flaws of the first one.
The government listened to a section of the voters and we got Brexit.
Our media and the world's social media are failing everyone utterly.
Both have been overrun by disingenuous scumbags and hostile nations.
Someone with nominal intelligence does not write "xRW 'company' in their discourse.
So I concur regarding the 'benefit' that not having it gives you.
Whatever you do, do not show this clip to any hard centre extremists, as they seem to get very upset by it...
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You are describing the current situation and that's why it's broken. You tube offers a chance to see wider views of our world and the world. You have the question of scum bag nations? Don't look too far.