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Citizen Kane. said:
Reform picked up a million more votes than the Lib Dems but take 64 fewer seats.

A very undemocratic quirk of FPTP.
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Suggests that their 'last minute, stand in every seat' election campaign may have backfired. Might have been better to have picked fewer, more credible candidates and focussed there.
But frankly, I'm personally happy with that quirk. :emoticon-0148-yes:
 
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Left on the Shelf said:
Suggests that their 'last minute, stand in every seat' election campaign may have backfired. Might have been better to have picked fewer, more credible candidates and focussed there.
But frankly, I'm personally happy with that quirk. :emoticon-0148-yes:
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Reform UK have by their own admission operated a
low "actionable data" campaign (their lack of funds
being the primary cause) .

They have now got :

1. increasing financial donations
2. a seam of good electorate data from this and the 2019 elections


Expect them to use the above to more devastating effect in the elections to come.
 
The RDBD said:
Reform UK have by their own admission operated a
low "actionable data" campaign (their lack of funds
being the primary cause) .

They have now got :

1. increasing financial donations
2. a seam of good electorate data from this and the 2019 elections


Expect them to use the above to more devastating effect in the elections to come.
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They were being heavily and suspiciously pushed all over social media, though.
Their Tik-Tok presence was incredibly dubious, by all accounts.
It's just another one of Nige's Putin-backed spamfests. Time for someone in authority to deal with him.
 
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PleaseNotPoll said:
They were being heavily and suspiciously pushed all over social media, though.
Their Tik-Tok presence was incredibly dubious, by all accounts.
It's just another one of Nige's Putin-backed spamfests. Time for someone in authority to deal with him.
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Even if true, irrelevant to what I stated.
 
Citizen Kane. said:
Reform picked up a million more votes than the Lib Dems but take 64 fewer seats.

A very undemocratic quirk of FPTP.
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It gets worse.

Reports are in that regional manager Starmer got
LESS votes today than comrade Corbyn did in 2019,
but is 200 odd seats better off.
 
The RDBD said:
It gets worse.

Reports are in that regional manager Starmer got
LESS votes today than comrade Corbyn did in 2019,
but is 200 odd seats better off.
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Completely normal under our winner takes all system. In the last election the right and centre had a majority of the popular vote which inevitably leads to a Conservative majority. This time the left and centre had a majority of the popular vote and the right was divided so this is amplified into a huge Labour majority.
 
PowerSpurs said:
Completely normal under our winner takes all system. ...
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I know.

All that is demonstrated is that as a mathematical system
FPTP is utterly chaotic as a function of proportional vote.

And on that basis, someone with nominal intelligence
would avoid mocking those who appear to have suffered
worst at the hands of it.
 
One loss that many people probably missed was Ian Paisley Jr in North Antrim.
His father won it in 1970 and held it until his retirement in 2010.
Jr picked it up that year and held it until now.
 
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