Off Topic General Election

[Kalman]

Starmer’s actually joined in with the ‘stop the boats’ rhetoric, probably to poach back the socially conservative working-class Labour voters who swung Tory in 2019 and prevent losing their votes to Reform. Think of all the seats that have been Labour for decades that voted Tory in 2019.

He’s also done a bit of a u-turn on trans’ rights by saying trans women shouldn’t access female-only spaces like bathrooms.

He’ll probably lose a few votes to the Greens doing this but he knows that. The Corbynites never liked him to begin with and this overlaps with a cohort of people who have made Israel and Palestine their whole personality since last October who don’t like him because they think he and his Shadow Cabinet are too Zionist. Some of them were going to vote Green or Galloway’s party anyway.

 

[Kalman]

I’m not voting.

Historically I’ve voted Labour but can’t bring myself to vote for this shower of ****.

Have you seen the state of the daft twats at their conferences?

Labour Party members from the Islington Champagne Socialist Set( now referred to as the ICSS) and Labour Party voters from the working class North are polar opposites.

The ICSS would balk at being in the same room as the proletariat serfs from council estates in Hull who voted Brexit and vote Labour.

Not for me, chef.

The SDP seem to be more in line with socially conservative working-class Labour voters but with FPTP voting, they’re so insignificant and have little chance of winning any seats.

 

[Steven Toast]

So far, I've seen the avatar of **** that is Andrew Bridgen, the words "prevent woke ideology" and "stop teaching about transgenderism in schools".

Yeah, so Reform getting in would put people like myself in rather a lot of danger. People like me, my trans and LGBQ+ friends and relatives, we don't tend to last in a far right society. Us existing is apparently a bit of a problem for that particular section of the public and teenagers learning we exist is apparently the sky falling in on our ****ing heads. I've already heard the words "against the wall" from some of the supposed Reform lot.

That's the problem with extremist politics, it isn't the politicians and their ideas you necessarily need to worry about, it's the environment they nurture through stochastic means. Look at what that rapist convicted felon did as President of the USA.

 

[Cityzen]

California gets $20 billion a year from cannabis tax revenue. Not sure anyone there buys it from an illegal dealer anymore - why bother.

Really? The figures don’t seem to match that. https://californiacannabis.org/business/tax

Why are all those people lying about in the streets of San Francisco incapable of doing anything?

 

[originalminority]

The Yvette Cooper who said she would be happy to take in a refugee but then despite having 2 houses and a load of money decided it would be all too much and didn’t?

We pay France millions to help stop the boats, will Cooper continue handing over this cash to a National Rally French government?

 

[DMD]

So far, I've seen the avatar of **** that is Andrew Bridgen, the words "prevent woke ideology" and "stop teaching about transgenderism in schools".

Yeah, so Reform getting in would put people like myself in rather a lot of danger. People like me, my trans and LGBQ+ friends and relatives, we don't tend to last in a far right society. Us existing is apparently a bit of a problem for that particular section of the public and teenagers learning we exist is apparently the sky falling in on our ****ing heads. I've already heard the words "against the wall" from some of the supposed Reform lot.

That's the problem with extremist politics, it isn't the politicians and their ideas you necessarily need to worry about, it's the environment they nurture through stochastic means. Look at what that rapist convicted felon did as President of the USA.

I would suspect that you're in far more real danger from those pandering to the extreme islamic groups that seem to be gaining support. Reform seem to have quite a multicultural set of candidates who will be hell bent on tackling extremists acting in their name.

 

[Steven Toast]

I would suspect that you're in far more real danger from those pandering to the extreme islamic groups that seem to be gaining support. Reform seem to have quite a multicultural set of candidates who will be hell bent on tackling extremists acting in their name.

Which party is pandering to extremist Islam?

 

[DMD]

Which party is pandering to extremist Islam?

The islamic ones for a kick off, but others don't condemn the extremists anything like they've done with the oddballs that are supposedly latched on to reform, not all of whom have actually been anything to do with them.

The point still stands that Reform are quite liable to root them out, as the leadership clearly want no part of that extremism.

 

[Idi Amin]

We have lift off!

 

[Kalman]

Which party is pandering to extremist Islam?

Galloway’s. Also, this year alone we’ve had an Afghan ‘refugee’ fail multiple asylum applications, still be allowed to stay, made a faux conversion to Christianity to get his application approved then chucked acid in a young mother and her child’s face and was on the run, not to mention the Moroccan ‘refugee’ who stabbed a British pensioner as ‘revenge for Palestine’. All done under the Tories’ watch. Whatever the Home Office is doing, it isn’t ****ing good enough.

 

[Cityzen]

Which party is pandering to extremist Islam?

He isn’t say party, he said those pandering to the extreme Islamic groups. Like those who won’t insist on teaching about transgender issues or LGBTQ issues to Muslims out of respect to their culture and beliefs. No such consideration for Christians who may feel the same.
Is it possible to be dimmer than those with placards declaring Queers For Palestine? If those in control there were in charge here they wouldn’t last two minutes.

 

[Carmine Galante.]

So far, I've seen the avatar of **** that is Andrew Bridgen, the words "prevent woke ideology" and "stop teaching about transgenderism in schools".

Yeah, so Reform getting in would put people like myself in rather a lot of danger. People like me, my trans and LGBQ+ friends and relatives, we don't tend to last in a far right society. Us existing is apparently a bit of a problem for that particular section of the public and teenagers learning we exist is apparently the sky falling in on our ****ing heads. I've already heard the words "against the wall" from some of the supposed Reform lot.

That's the problem with extremist politics, it isn't the politicians and their ideas you necessarily need to worry about, it's the environment they nurture through stochastic means. Look at what that rapist convicted felon did as President of the USA.

Prepare for round 2 re Trumper.

FFS.

 

[Cityzen]

Galloway’s. Also, this year alone we’ve had an Afghan ‘refugee’ fail multiple asylum applications, still be allowed to stay, made a faux conversion to Christianity to get his application approved then chucked acid in a young mother and her child’s face and was on the run, not to mention the Moroccan ‘refugee’ who stabbed a British pensioner as ‘revenge for Palestine’. All done under the Tories’ watch. Whatever the Home Office is doing, it isn’t ****ing good enough.

And won’t be any better under Starmer’s watch. A human rights lawyer isn’t going to upset Muslims.

 

[Steven Toast]

The islamic ones for a kick off, but others don't condemn the extremists anything like they've done with the oddballs that are supposedly latched on to reform, not all of whom have actually been anything to do with them.

The point still stands that Reform are quite liable to root them out, as the leadership clearly want no part of that extremism.

The Reform London Mayoral Candidate, Laurence Fox, has thrown his party endorsement to Reform. I look forward to Nigel Farage rejecting the endorsement of a man who burned pride flags with glee and referred to us as "groomers" and "child mutilators".

 

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[What? A full dog?]

The manifestos aiming to tax the rich more will fall short of their expected targets, as the rich are already upping sticks in record numbers. Taxing them further will simply take money out of the economy.

If rich people want to leave the country if they are made to pay a fair amount of tax, good riddance - let’s put our collective size 11s up their rectums, to Rwanda! Even if it took money out the economy now, it would create wealth in the long run as it would normalise rich people paying their fair share for generations to come. Most European countries manage to tax the rich more equitably without a mass exodus.
I’m shocked that so many people are brainwashed into this “don’t tax the rich” rubbish. Turkeys voting for Christmas.

 

[originalminority]

So far, I've seen the avatar of **** that is Andrew Bridgen, the words "prevent woke ideology" and "stop teaching about transgenderism in schools".

Yeah, so Reform getting in would put people like myself in rather a lot of danger. People like me, my trans and LGBQ+ friends and relatives, we don't tend to last in a far right society. Us existing is apparently a bit of a problem for that particular section of the public and teenagers learning we exist is apparently the sky falling in on our ****ing heads. I've already heard the words "against the wall" from some of the supposed Reform lot.

That's the problem with extremist politics, it isn't the politicians and their ideas you necessarily need to worry about, it's the environment they nurture through stochastic means. Look at what that rapist convicted felon did as President of the USA.

You have nothing to fear, there is no chance of persecution. It's a misconception that the far right is anti-gay, there have always been people of this pursuation in their ranks, Martin Webster, Harvey Proctor, Douglas Murray etc.

 

[Cityzen]

So far, I've seen the avatar of **** that is Andrew Bridgen, the words "prevent woke ideology" and "stop teaching about transgenderism in schools".

Yeah, so Reform getting in would put people like myself in rather a lot of danger. People like me, my trans and LGBQ+ friends and relatives, we don't tend to last in a far right society. Us existing is apparently a bit of a problem for that particular section of the public and teenagers learning we exist is apparently the sky falling in on our ****ing heads. I've already heard the words "against the wall" from some of the supposed Reform lot.

That's the problem with extremist politics, it isn't the politicians and their ideas you necessarily need to worry about, it's the environment they nurture through stochastic means. Look at what that rapist convicted felon did as President of the USA.

You wouldn’t last long in a far left or Muslim one. Do you mean the President who launched less raids than Saint Obama and only deported a quarter of the number each month of his presidency Obama did?

 

[Cityzen]

You have nothing to fear, there is no chance of persecution. It's a misconception that the far right is anti-gay, there have always been people of this pursuation in their ranks, Martin Webster, Harvey Proctor, Douglas Murray etc.

Ernst Rohm…Meanwhile homosexuality was illegal in all the East European states under communist rule.

 

[Kalman]

If rich people want to leave the country if they are made to pay a fair amount of tax, good riddance - let’s put our collective size 11s up their rectums, to Rwanda! Even if it took money out the economy now, it would create wealth in the long run as it would normalise rich people paying their fair share for generations to come. Most European countries manage to tax the rich more equitably without a mass exodus.
I’m shocked that so many people are brainwashed into this “don’t tax the rich” rubbish. Turkeys voting for Christmas.

That’s why a Land Value Tax is great because 60% of the UK’s wealth is in land, 70% of the land is owned by just 1% and if they throw a huff and leave to avoid paying it, they can’t take their land with them and the government just make it public land.