Off Topic General Election

[Amin Arrears]

Does anyone actually care?

 

[Cityzen]

Correct and this is why the European far right like National Rally in France are holding their gains and Farage is far more a reactionary protest vote.
Interesting to see if the NR take power in France how it improves our stop the boats campaign or not?

It won’t help at all. And even more will be heading this way as we are an easy touch. 75 % of asylum applications fail in France, 72% succeed in the UK. You cannot access any services in france unless registered and with ID. You can ditch your ID and come here and be put up and receive health treatment with no problems. And it will no doubt be made even easier for those arriving illegally under Starmer. Having said that, legal immigration is the biggest problem and it will be interesting to see what Labour do about that.

 

[Kalman]

Technically they aren't lying as they are cutting taxes, but it's smoke and mirrors... Taxes had to go up to pay for all the COVID support people and businesses got and anyone who thought otherwise is delusional. As you say the freezing of the thresholds is the biggest con going!

The tax burden now is appalling, but under labour it will only get worse and they'll just hide behind the simple line "we had to do it because of the Tories" I really don't know how starmer can say "he won't raise taxes for working people" with a straight face. I absolutely guarantee working people will see tax rises almost in the first budget

I don’t really like Reform but their policy of increasing the tax-free threshold for income tax to £20,000 is a really good policy for working-class people. It lets people on lower incomes keep more disposable income, which they can choose to save or to spend which all goes back into the economy anyway.

I think income tax should be abolished completely anyway but that’s a separate issue.

 

[Cityzen]

I don’t really like Reform but their policy of increasing the tax-free threshold for income tax to £20,000 is a really good policy for working-class people. It lets people on lower incomes keep more disposable income, which they can choose to save or to spend which all goes back into the economy anyway.

I think income tax should be abolished completely anyway but that’s a separate issue.

Trouble is no income tax results in high prices for everything else. There a number of very small countries, and a couple of oil rich states, smaller ones where there is no income tax but no large, industrialised ones.

 

[Kalman]

Trouble is no income tax results in high prices for everything else. There a number of very small countries, and a couple of oil rich states, smaller ones where there is no income tax but no large, industrialised ones.

Yeah, and income taxes alone is the biggest source of revenue for the Treasury. Just north of £270 billion this year.

Ideally, I’d replace it with a LVT to make up the difference. Unlike with raising corporation tax, corporations can’t just **** off to another country with a lower tax rate to operate in as land is immovable property. They either pay the LVT or surrender ownership of the land.

 

[The B&S Fanclub]

I don’t really like Reform but their policy of increasing the tax-free threshold for income tax to £20,000 is a really good policy....

Its, I think a policy to make work work.. In that if you are on a relatively low salary you won't pay tax , therefore there is an incentive to work rather than stay on the rock&roll...I am aware of the no politics rule, but I have to say its one of the better ideas I have heard over the last five weeks from anyone....

 

[DMD]

Yeah, and income taxes alone is the biggest source of revenue for the Treasury. Just north of £270 billion this year.

Ideally, I’d replace it with a LVT to make up the difference. Unlike with raising corporation tax, corporations can’t just **** off to another country with a lower tax rate to operate in as land is immovable property. They either pay the LVT or surrender ownership of the land.

There's also an issue bubbling away in the background, probably not for this term, but if they do have a big push towards EV's there tax revenue from petrol and diesel will have to be found from somewhere.

 

[originalminority]

It won’t help at all. And even more will be heading this way as we are an easy touch. 75 % of asylum applications fail in France, 72% succeed in the UK. You cannot access any services in france unless registered and with ID. You can ditch your ID and come here and be put up and receive health treatment with no problems. And it will no doubt be made even easier for those arriving illegally under Starmer. Having said that, legal immigration is the biggest problem and it will be interesting to see what Labour do about that.

Ironic that France whilst still within the EU elects a government prepared to tackle mass immigration at the same time as the brexited UK votes in a soft left Labour government. Will Yvette Cooper have any 'balls'?

 

[Howdentiger2]

Trouble is no income tax results in high prices for everything else. There a number of very small countries, and a couple of oil rich states, smaller ones where there is no income tax but no large, industrialised ones.

Several states in the US have no state income tax ( you still have to pay federal tax starting at around 10% I think ) and those states seem to be very attractive

 

[Heimdallr]

There's also an issue bubbling away in the background, probably not for this term, but if they do have a big push towards EV's there tax revenue from petrol and diesel will have to be found from somewhere.

Legalise and tax drugs. If done properly, should save money on policing and criminality.

 

[Mckechnie Orange]

What if none of the busses are going in the direction you want to go?

I've never felt less like voting, they're all ****ing hopeless.

Then you probably live in East Yorkshire after 14 years of the Tories.

 

[The B&S Fanclub]

Ironic that France whilst still within the EU elects a government prepared to tackle mass immigration at the same time as the brexited UK votes in a soft left Labour government. Will Yvette Cooper have any 'balls'?

i see what you did there.

Ironic that a spokesperson for the French right wing, said that "immigrants have to be welcomed somewhere, but not in France." Which implies that they'll be attempting to send them to other European countries including the UK.

 

[Cityzen]

Ironic that France whilst still within the EU elects a government prepared to tackle mass immigration at the same time as the brexited UK votes in a soft left Labour government. Will Yvette Cooper have any 'balls'?

The Yvette Cooper who said she would be happy to take in a refugee but then despite having 2 houses and a load of money decided it would be all too much and didn’t?

 

[Cityzen]

Legalise and tax drugs. If done properly, should save money on policing and criminality.

It doesn’t seem to have done elsewhere. Gangs will still be involved offering cheaper stuff because they aren’t paying taxes like they do with cigarettes.

 

[TIGERSCAVE]

Can I just commend everyone here for being rational in their posts.

 

[Howdentiger2]

Can I just commend everyone here for being rational in their posts.

I was just thinking I'm surprised at how civilised it's stayed so far

 

[Heimdallr]

It doesn’t seem to have done elsewhere. Gangs will still be involved offering cheaper stuff because they aren’t paying taxes like they do with cigarettes.

California gets $20 billion a year from cannabis tax revenue. Not sure anyone there buys it from an illegal dealer anymore - why bother.

 

[Carmine Galante.]

I’m not voting.

Historically I’ve voted Labour but can’t bring myself to vote for this shower of ****.

Have you seen the state of the daft twats at their conferences?

Labour Party members from the Islington Champagne Socialist Set( now referred to as the ICSS) and Labour Party voters from the working class North are polar opposites.

The ICSS would balk at being in the same room as the proletariat serfs from council estates in Hull who voted Brexit and vote Labour.

Not for me, chef.

 

[Idi Amin]

Can I just commend everyone here for being rational in their posts.

Wait til the results roll in!

 

[Cityzen]

Several states in the US have no state income tax ( you still have to pay federal tax starting at around 10% I think ) and those states seem to be very attractive

And pay higher sales taxes ad property taxes. A lot of them rank low on the quality of life index.