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Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by FellTop, Nov 26, 2023.

  1. Disco down under

    Disco down under Well-Known Member

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    We didnt flirt with relegation. That's a significant exaggeration. At no time did it seem likely or even particularly possible we would go down.
     
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  2. Grizzled Wanderer

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    Looks like I've got a special friend <laugh>
     
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  3. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    Absolute nonsense.

    'Are you a 90% full glass ...

    ... or a 10% down to the absolute dregs glass <laugh>

    Seriously, why are these people so constantly miserable, if 'supporting' SAFC makes them so unhappy why don't they just do everyone, including themselves, a favour and stop <doh>
     
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  4. alcoauth

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    I think there is evidence that this is the case.

    If you look at the Ellis Short years, we were essentially bankrolled and the plan was very basic, hire and sign reputable people for whatever they cost in order to move up the table, we were never able to do that and eventually the bankrolling became too much for Ellis Short and it left us in a really bad situation.

    The way we are run now, with an aim to be self sufficient, if we can achieve that (well on our way) the club can go as far as our business practices allow us and I think we all agree 16th in the Championship isn't where we are in terms of fanbase, squad, recruitment model and business planning.

    The goal has to be the playoffs, this season, next season, however many seasons it takes us, the automatic slots are going to be reserved for those being bankrolled, those with premier league quality squads and after that, perhaps those who seem to get something very right, like Ipswich last season, we are only ever going to be in that latter category for the time being, actually getting into the Premiership is what will unlock the bigger financial rewards and thus spending capabilities.
     
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  5. Gil T Azell

    Gil T Azell Well-Known Member

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    I knew nothing about virtually any of the names mentioned but like yourself I think we will have a very good season.

    The new head coach/manager whatever he is called this week looked to try and play decent football until the club sold quite a few players from under him.

    Regardless of who we got in, who goes out its another season, another start and I for one cannot wait.
     
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  6. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    I'd agree with most of that.

    Anywhere north of 7th is an achievement imo ...

    ... I think most people would be pleased with that.

    Some good attacking football would help.
     
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  7. Grizzled Wanderer

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    Finished six points off and 19th in the form table.
     
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  8. Disco down under

    Disco down under Well-Known Member

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    We went through an undeniably rancid spell of form. No denying that but it would have taken Dodd getting 2 or 3 points from his 13 games instead of the 9 he did manage.

    2/3 points from 13 games extrapolated over a season would, I assume absolutely smash the record for lowest points total in the championship.

    We were bad. We were nor historically bad. And we had been very decent up until about half way through the season.

    The relegation talk always seemed ridiculous.
     
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  9. Grizzled Wanderer

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    I certainly hope so. Momentum is key in this league and they've finally got the boulder moving again ever so slowly.
     
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  10. Disco down under

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    The form table means absolutely nothing given it doesn't take into account we were high up the table deep into the season.

    We never looked like all the teams below us would catch us. It would have taken several more games for that to happen and there is simply no situation where the football league adds several games to the season.
     
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  11. Smug in Boots

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    Some of our 'supporters' were absolutely salivating about it when it was actually nonsense ...

    ... probably the same clowns who've been claiming we were 'flirting with Dodds as manager'.

    'Realists' who believe in fantasies but only ever convince themselves <laugh>
     
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  12. young2077

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    Yeah no where near close to relegation, would have been a different story without the first half of the season! But as the saying goes if me auntie had balls she would be....hang on a second these days she would still be me auntie or whatever she wanted to be.
     
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  13. Grizzled Wanderer

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    The numbers are the numbers. We weren't safe until very, very late in the season. It's even worse when you consider where we were at one point.
     
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  14. Smug in Boots

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    If there'd been a chance of relegation I think the club would've persevered with Beale ...

    ... as there was no chance they sacked him and just started planning for this one.
     
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  15. Disco down under

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    What was our lowest position in the season? We did not flirt with relegation. No matter how you cut it. It never looked likely at all.

    And I'm very realistic about how shocking we were under Dodds. It would have taken historically bad form to see us relegated, we were not close to that.
     
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  16. Monkey69

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    When does the measuring begin ???
    There was a series of good decisions before the bad decisions do they not count or is that outside of your time frame of decisions :emoticon-0130-devil
     
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  17. young2077

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    Agreed, although I doubt they expected the form to plummet as it did!

    I can't wait to see what this season brings!
     
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  18. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    Don't confuse him with facts mate, he'll start spouting business jargon and explaining where the club are going wrong ...

    ... he can keep up the negativity longer than Julian Assange can stay home watching CNN <laugh>
     
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  19. Grizzled Wanderer

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    Six points is four results going the other way. Two of ours and two for one of the teams on 50 points.

    All fixed now though, because the new strip is nice. We're definitely getting promoted. Billy The Fish logic on show again.
     
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  20. Disco down under

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    Well if the football league start retrospectively changing results and points on the board, we should probably worry about that.
     
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