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  1. Disco down under

    Disco down under Well-Known Member

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    I'd generally reserve the term victim for those who were colonised but as you are pushing for an answer, yes, I'm sure there were lots of British victims of the British empire just as there were many American victims in the Vietnam war and German victims in World War II. War is rarely neat.

    I also try not to use the term double-whammied but that's a whole different thing.

    And it's for the people who dislike immigration to decide, not me, but I would definitely suggest they think twice next time they sing Rule Brittania and puff their chests out. The thing they love almost certainly fuels the thing they hate.
     
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    That is the first I have ever heard of that!
     
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    I think my point has landed.

    English is an ethnicity, everybody has an ethnicity, if people want a sensible conversation about the deconstruction of ethnic groups, we can start in alphabetical order, otherwise it's just actual racist animus from the usual suspects.
     
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    There's a great Emo band called Saves The Day, you guys should check them out.

    Anyway, carry on.
     
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  5. The Norton Cat

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    It was another one of those things that was sparked by increasing interest in nationalism at around that time.
     
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    I don't think Wikipedia is the best of references. It's getting better, but it's hardly authoritative
     
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  7. Disco down under

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    I'm afraid you've made a connection to your point that I can't see and you've entirely lost me there.

    I don’t, won't, and have never used English as my ethnicity. I use it as geographical indicator and an informal nationality that sits beneath British.
     
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  8. alcoauth

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    That's funny because I'd argue it's getting worse.
     
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  9. alcoauth

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    What is your ethnicity?
     
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    As I said earlier.

    I just write white on forms, I've never written English. No one has told me I'm wrong and to my knowledge it has never caused any one any offence.

    But this ethnicity/race conversation is starting to sound similar to the sex/gender debate and that is a rabbit hole that goes deep and dark and I am happy to be blissful in my ignorance of it.
     
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  11. alcoauth

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    No, I'm not asking what your race is, if you're black or white etc I'm asking what is your ethnicity (ethnic group) is?

    It's not a trick question.
     
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  12. The Norton Cat

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    How are you defining ethnicity?
     
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  15. Disco down under

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    I haven't done a DNA test and don't know/don't particularly care to find out what my ancestry is so my ethnicity is, I guess, either unknown or not applicable.
     
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  16. alcoauth

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    Do you accept that if someone dug up your bones in 200 years time and used autosomal genealogical testing they could determine which ethnic group you belong to? <laugh>
     
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    I would think I would belong to several.
     
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  18. alcoauth

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    Okay mate, I think I've ran out of things to say on this topic. <laugh>
     
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  19. The Norton Cat

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    Genetic testing can't identify your ethnicity. Ethnicity is a set of shared cultural and social characteristics that include language, religion, beliefs, customs, history, mythology, clothing, amongst other things. There is often an overlap with ancestry/genetics but ethnicity is not necessarily defined by it. There are various agencies through which individuals can change ethnic groups. Some anthropologists and social scientists regard ethnicity as a product of specific kinds of inter-group interactions, rather than an essential quality inherent to human groups.
     
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  20. alcoauth

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    Left wing wibble. <laugh>
     
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