Id have played foden and bellingham like de la fuente used pedri and ruiz And youre not telling me that as of 2024 Spains wingers are better than englands But its a mute point Southgate has demonstrated he must have 2 base midfielders at all times If its not philips its trent and if trent is subbed Then gallagher comes on I have no doubt in my mind england could play like spain with a positive manager
As someone on TV said this morning great teams are greater than the sum of their parts. I said about Ramsey in discussions a long time ago that Ramsey was the only one who decided on the way he was going to play and picked the players he thought would suit it best. Would a Blackpool, Fulham or Huddersfield player be in the team nowadays? Jack Charlton was picked late on in his career to do a job, No one else thought he was anEngland player. Same with Stiles, got the fewest caps of any World Cup Winner but was there to do a job. He put Hurst in when Greaves, our greatest goal scorer at top flight level, was injured and because it worked stuck with him. Ramsey also used players in similar roles they fulfilled at club level. Spain have players playing to a similar system they do at club level. We try to put players in the side because they are good at club level then ask them to play in a diff ent postition as to what they do all season.
Are people really laying in to Harry Kane? I was surprised to hear Lineker going for it last night. The best centre forward England has had in about 15 years since Rooney lost his mojo. And one of the best strikers in the world right now. What was it, 40 odd goals this season? And the most goal contributions an English player has ever made in the champions league. Really? Harry Kane is the problem now?
Yes, sorry to point out this stark truth to you. He really is the problem. And most definitely not fit.
Kane is another who is not used well in this system For kane to be at his best The team needs to overload attacking areas Like spain The ball needs to be in the box Hes not a pacey forward who stretches teams himself Gordon should be using his.pace to run at defenders from wide But southgate and his cautious safe football knows best Southgate who got relegated with boro And finished bottom of euro 2015 england u21 group Southgate wears a hardhat putting his socks on Southgate employs a lifeguard for showers
There's a lot of good points in a good post here... Only one criticism, and it's strictly on a personal point of view,I think we are 'good enough' and that in turn has fired the frustration,anger and disbelief that has followed this result and many others over the years under a boring twat of an England coach. He's underachieved/underachieving and he's now torn apart a very good English squad and replaced proven big match talent with up and coming(form) players due to his own arrogance...Because he can,because he believes himself to be bullet proof,because he believes in his own hype? Rashford and Grealish were established parts in this England machine,they could be called upon to come on and put their bodies on the line for the cause...He's sacrificed that for players with little or no experience at this level,players who could freeze in the magnitude of this event? Bellingham is a jewel,he was imperious in the first half of match one,so was Saka.Foden could be dropped into just about any squad in this tournament and shine like a Diamond...You don't become a dud over night. I too hope there are some harsh words, big changes,and players are finally given a chance to shine in their natural positions,hopefully we can then finally click and show some English pride in this tournament... Anything less is abject failure and should automatically signal the end of this buffoonery.
Kane always thrives when theres pacey wide players who stretch the play Sterling Musiala Gnabry Sane Son etc
He wasn’t laying into Kane. He was saying Kane isn’t suited to the system we are playing. And the system doesn’t suit him either.
This right here is just a ridiculous comment sorry Ric. But all everyone ever did was moan that the form English players got left out the squad whilst whoever the manager was called up the big names from the big clubs. Now he’s using the form players and people are moaning that he should be playing the big names.
I dont get why more people didnt watch spain and think what the **** are england doing I wonder if its becasue people still think spain play tika taka But spain in 2024 are almost a mirror of england Pedri matches foden Ruiz matches bellingham Rodri matches rice Saka matches yamal Gordon or another winger matches williams Defence is as good Kane is similar to morata but a better finisher Its baffling!!!
Kane only had one touch in the box last night and guess what? He scored. As the pundits all said we were far too cautious and sat far too deep. Stones needs to push up, so does Rice and then because others will maintain the shape we’ll actually be approaching the final third. And Kane needs to stop dropping back all the time.
And how brucie is southgate When need a goal Just bring attackers on With no thought of how it will change the game Like for like swaps He cant change a system He swaps trent gallagher Southgate should give us all the belief that if we are good at talking and appear to know stuff We can blag our way into better jobs Hes an inspiration honestly So go for that promotion That payrise If southgate can do it So can we all
I thought the tone of it was getting a bit stuck in to Kane to be honest. But he’s getting bashed up and down right now, it’s just insane. I can agree that we could set up better to make better use of him. A good manager makes the most of what he’s got. It’s something that Southgate has managed to get correct very well in his 3 major tournaments prior to this, so it’s a bit surprising that he would change course now and start using players in a way that doesn’t really suit them. Either way performances this far have been poor, hopefully there is much better to come. Fingers crossed the typical England curse isn’t catching up to the current set up.
If we were in the prem Would you want southgate? Would you want southgate in the champio ship? League one?
It's not about player A is better than player B C or D we have a squad of good players as they have shown for their respective clubs. We are lacking team spirit and putting to much into playing styles and formations etc. It's not a game of chess.
