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Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Smug in Boots, May 22, 2024.

  1. rooch 3

    rooch 3 Well-Known Member

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    He’s come across well in all the interviews I’ve seen up to now mate.
     
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  2. Blond Bombshell

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    Needs locking up along with the the po heads responsible or worked with the Horizon system
     
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  3. FellTop

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    Disappointed to see Labour drop pensions savings cap reintroduction. Wonder what else is on the horizon on Thursday.
     
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  4. Grizzled Wanderer

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    This thread is very quiet bearing in mind the election is a pre-vote victory lap for Labour.

    Manifestos yesterday, not a single post. I wonder if that means anything.
     
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    Is your theory is that it is some sort of conspiracy?
     
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  6. Grizzled Wanderer

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    No, I'm wondering whether it's such a foregone conclusion that nobody's bothered about it.
     
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  7. Blond Bombshell

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    Any comments on the tory manifesto?
     
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  8. Gordon Armstrong

    Gordon Armstrong Just another S.A.F.C. fan
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    It probably doesn't matter about what's said in any manifesto for any party 'cos it'll all be lies to try to win the election, the outcome is already obvious, and we will be in an even worse state than we are now in the near future, unfortunately :emoticon-0112-wonde
     
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  9. rooch 3

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    I find that really hard to believe, but then anything is possible with the s hite we have available to vote for.
     
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  10. Disco down under

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    But the good news is the conservatives will come back in and fix it and find a new way to break it again before too long.

    But the good news is Labour will come back in and fix it and find a new way to break it again before too long.

    But...
     
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  11. OldNewtown

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    I resigned to the fact that whoever wins I will end up paying more for less.
    I've just got to pick one that's slightly less useless than the other.
    Whatever happened to doing what's best for the whole Country rather a few self interested groups and themselves.
    Perhaps its always been that way, it's just taken too many years for the penny to finally drop for me.
     
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  12. alcoauth

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    It's almost like we need something to break the chain of the two parties.
     
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  13. Blond Bombshell

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    It's been like that for the past 35 years according to the bbc. However, the Tories have taken it to a whole new piss level
     
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  14. FellTop

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    Initial glance at green party manifesto. Raising tax in order to spend. Good. At least one party has the decency to be honest. There is no magic money tree like the tories and labour seem to believe. If we want better we are all going to have to pay what we can in the short to medium term. Might just vote green, for all the good it will do in reality.
     
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    She (party leader) was just so unlikeable on the BBC election debate the other day, I couldn't stomach it.
     
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  16. rooch 3

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    Two sides to every story though mate. If they stopped wasting billions we could probably pay half the tax we do now and be no worse off. Let’s try that route first, what do you think?
     
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  17. alcoauth

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    Surprised Reform have barely had a mention on here, I presume most dislike him, how did we feel about the milkshake and cement fiasco? Wish he was knocked out by the cement?
     
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  18. Blond Bombshell

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    Believe he's going to be offered free security. If so, I could see him attracting more nutters looking for a scrap
     
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  19. alcoauth

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    I do wonder, let's say he copped that cement on the chin and he was knocked out, the moral high ground at that point is gone and you might have people running up on Diane Abbott slamming cement into her face etc makes you think.
     
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  20. FellTop

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    Wouldnt mind it. But in my experience cutting waste is far harder to do than it should be. In our situation we probably need a medium term tax burden to ramp up services now, and a long term efficiency drivw to bring them back down again. What we cant keep doing is trying to improve on the never never. Look at some of those long term PIF deals that are so cost innefective. The problem is you cant just exit them, so cost innefficiencies ard baked in. No easy fixes here, in my opinion, despite what the politicians might tell us.
     
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