Off Topic The Politics Thread

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Manifestos will be out by all parties in the next two weeks. I pretty much know Tory plans because it’s more of the bloody same. All I know about Labour is that tax changes to private schools and non doms will pay for everything, and Streeting will tinker with NHS around the edges.
Let’s hope manifestos are more enlightening
 
So Starmer knew that Sunak would confront him with the £2,000 tax lie and deliberately didn't directly rebut it in the debate despite being in possession of a letter from the Treasury rubbishing the claim, rather allowing him to repeat it over and over again. It made him look weak at the time (I switched off when it became clear that he wasn't going contradict Sunak on it) but the fall-out this morning makes it look like a subtle and rather clever lawyerly ploy, a bit like when he skewered Johnson over Partygate at PMQs.....The Ministerial Code says — and I quote — ‘ministers who knowingly mislead parliament will be expected to offer their resignation’. … I’ll leave it there, for now.”

I'm not convinced that this was his best option, though. Why not just pull the Treasury letter out of your pocket?
 
Sunak said that “independent treasury officials” had costed Labour’s spending plans and that they “amount to a £2,000 tax rise for every working family”.

Clever.

I still don’t like the rat-faced twat, though.
Since the Treasury say they didn't cost the figures...one of them is lying
 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd1122q14dxo.amp

So Sunak used the Treasury figures plus other assumptions. Shock horror! But lies? Nope, just politicking. Of course, Labour would never do anything like that because that’s not cuddly-wuddly.
Starmer should have counted it by saying the Tories will cost you £87,999 more per year. No need for the truth, just pick a random number, keep repeating until it sinks in people's brains.
 
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The truth of the matter is, neither party has published their manifesto yet so it's pretty difficult to state what something, someone else will implement, will cost. Seems most news outlets have picked up on Sunaks bullshit.