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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. Goldhawk-Road

    Goldhawk-Road Well-Known Member

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    Manifestos will be out by all parties in the next two weeks. I pretty much know Tory plans because it’s more of the bloody same. All I know about Labour is that tax changes to private schools and non doms will pay for everything, and Streeting will tinker with NHS around the edges.
    Let’s hope manifestos are more enlightening
     
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    Thank **** for the Euros starting soon. That's what I say!
     
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  3. Uber_Hoop

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    Starmergeddon and Roland both provided their expert analyses on Southgate and the team at the end of the debate yesterday evening.
     
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    It’s ok for some ….. <wah><wah> :grin: <ok>
     
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  5. Steelmonkey

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    At least you'll not be humiliated like the Scotland team...they're looking at a U21 striker who plays for Bristol City to replace Lyndon Dykes <yikes>
     
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  6. Stroller

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    So Starmer knew that Sunak would confront him with the £2,000 tax lie and deliberately didn't directly rebut it in the debate despite being in possession of a letter from the Treasury rubbishing the claim, rather allowing him to repeat it over and over again. It made him look weak at the time (I switched off when it became clear that he wasn't going contradict Sunak on it) but the fall-out this morning makes it look like a subtle and rather clever lawyerly ploy, a bit like when he skewered Johnson over Partygate at PMQs.....The Ministerial Code says — and I quote — ‘ministers who knowingly mislead parliament will be expected to offer their resignation’. … I’ll leave it there, for now.”

    I'm not convinced that this was his best option, though. Why not just pull the Treasury letter out of your pocket?
     
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    More polls this morning...

    Savanta - Starmer 44%, Sunak 39%
    JL Partners - Starmer 53%, Sunak 33%
     
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  8. Uber_Hoop

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    One man’s meat is another man’s poison (which was also Rock Hudson’s motto).
     
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  9. Star of David Bardsley

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    Sounds like an upgrade.
     
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  10. qprbeth

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    Since the Treasury say they didn't cost the figures...one of them is lying
     
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  11. Uber_Hoop

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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd1122q14dxo.amp

    So Sunak used the Treasury figures plus other assumptions. Shock horror! But lies? Nope, just politicking. Of course, Labour would never do anything like that because that’s not cuddly-wuddly.
     
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  12. bobmid

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    Starmer should have counted it by saying the Tories will cost you £87,999 more per year. No need for the truth, just pick a random number, keep repeating until it sinks in people's brains.
     
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    The truth of the matter is, neither party has published their manifesto yet so it's pretty difficult to state what something, someone else will implement, will cost. Seems most news outlets have picked up on Sunaks bullshit.
     
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  14. Uber_Hoop

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    Ah, at least you get how it works, Bob. Apparently, 68.4% of people don’t.
     
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    YouGov predicting Farage factor could win Reform 4 seats.
     
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    All hail the new king
     
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  18. Star of David Bardsley

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    Great news for the directors of Reform UK Party Ltd.
     
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