Match Day Thread Coventry v Hull City

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askewshair said:
Bad decisions happen. Four in one passage of play in injury time on injury time which results in a 3 point swing is more unique. As I stated numerous times, nothing to do with why we don’t reach the play offs, but just pointing out the irony it was Norwich and the point swing happens to be the difference between the two clubs currently.
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Some would argue it’s a four point gap between the clubs given the goal difference.

Then again there a few in here who’d argue what time is it eh..
 
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Tickton Tiger. said:
And the story goes....the referee that day was Jack Taylor?, also a World Cup referee and he admitted in later years to a City player, forget who, that he should have given the penalty to City......but no-one appealled loud enough, or something. It was a handball incident on the Chelsea goal line. The Hull Daily Mail had a photograph of the incident but only showed the ball heading towards the hand of a chelsea player stood a foot or so off the goal line.
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It was from Ken Houghton's header from around the penalty spot IIRC. I think it was a City game after Chelsea that Taylor refereed and he gave us a penalty (or something) that shouldn't have been and Waggy said "was that for Chelsea, Jack?'
 
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askewshair said:
Of course over a season, there are those key moments. Nor is there any guarantee either team’s season would have panned out exactly the same way had we held on at Norwich, so there’s no way I am suggesting that’s the reason we didn’t make the play offs
For me, that moment was particularly significant because it was amongst the worst refereeing decisions I have witnessed in over half a century of watching football. There were several very reasonable reasons why that goal, shouldn’t have stood. I can’t recall the detail, but I believe it was beyond added time (with no obvious further stoppages); the ball had gone out of play so should have been a goal kick; a City player was fouled in the melee; it should have been offside). It was practically the last kick of the game, the ref actually did the right thing in having a discussion with his linesman. He was very justified in disallowing it for any of those reasons. Unfortunately there were 35,000 Norwich fans celebrating a last minute winner, so he bottled it and allowed the goal. Yes, we’ve all seen worse bowlers, but I’ve not seen multiple bowlers in one incident. It was an extraordinary decision, there we had a season’s poor decisions going against us in one incident, costing us points and in the first game of the season, AGAINST NORWICH. It’s ironic that had that not gone in, we would now be level on points with two games to go.
I recall we were absolutely shocking that first half and played off the park, so hardly deserved anything from the game, but that is totally irrelevant.
Anyone got a clip of the goal.
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We were much better in the second half and were controlling a lot of their play
 
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I agree with you about Alsopp and his numerous errors - but he isn't the only championship keeper making them
 
Allsop is the worst keeper in the division to have played a full 90 minutes by way of goals conceded vs xG faced. Even Opta reckon he’s ****.

I don’t know if anyone who hasn’t played a full game is worse, they aren’t included.
 
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bradymk2 said:
Keeper has to be saving their second goal
It had no power on it
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He's 6 yards out and until it leaves his head, Allsop doesn't know wether he's putting it under the crossbar or nodding it into the ground. He had virtually no time to react to either scenario, so played the percentage that it would be a direct header into the top corner.

Yes Allsop has let a couple of soft ones in, but we're getting to a level of scrutiny now which borders on obsessive.

Remember him getting flack for one against stoke where the ball hits a divot and completely changes the trajectory and he gets grief for something he can do nowt about.

By all means criticise when it's deserved but still remember it's our job to support these lads not look for something that isn't there to pile on.

No responsible manager is ever going to give a 21 year old who's never played a senior game in England before a start over Allsop who despite his flaws is embedded in the style and gameplan in a crucial game on Saturday.

It's a conversation to be had after Plymouth.
 
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Mckechnie Orange said:
He's 6 yards out and until it leaves his head, Allsop doesn't know wether he's putting it under the crossbar or nodding it into the ground. He had virtually no time to react to either scenario, so played the percentage that it would be a direct header into the top corner.

Yes Allsop has let a couple of soft ones in, but we're getting to a level of scrutiny now which borders on obsessive.

Remember him getting flack for one against stoke where the ball hits a divot and completely changes the trajectory and he gets grief for something he can do nowt about.

By all means criticise when it's deserved but still remember it's our job to support these lads not look for something that isn't there to pile on.

No responsible manager is ever going to give a 21 year old who's never played a senior game in England before a start over Allsop who despite his flaws is embedded in the style and gameplan in a crucial game on Saturday.

It's a conversation to be had after Plymouth.
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You saying he's "let in a couple of soft goals" it's just as ott as what you're complaining about just the other end of the spectrum. We can argue till the cows come home about why he's ( rightly or wrongly ) not been dropped. But the doesn't change the fact he's ( in GK terms ) and absolutely terrible keeper. All the stats that so many on here are so fond of show he is. But those seem people who use stats to try and prove their point with other players are suddenly blind to it when it comes to allsop....
 
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