Transfer Rumours January Transfer Thread

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They signed what we would call a no 9 in Delap.

Oscar was big enough to be a 9, couldn't play effectively as one though in this league. A non entity when asked to drop deep, can't play with his back to goal. He's a poacher, but a streaky and inconsistent one at that.

Tetteh was more like a 9, but he was never available.

And come the end of the season if we've scored more than last season as a result of our business then it's ultimately the right choice.

Yes we've improved from last season, but that doesn't mean come the end of the season if we miss out on the play offs due to our lack of goals then it's a massive missed opportunity considering how close we are and the backing LR has had....and if that's the case then a question has to be asked of Liam, if as you say it's his job to get the best out the squad. Because right now he's either getting the best out the squad and the squad he has isn't good enough to score the goals needed to get a play off spot or he's not getting the best out of them. Which is it?
 
Yep, and everyone knows this but some people for some reason pretend not to at times.

No, everyone knows it's extremely difficult to get a good striker in any window let alone Jan, what people are saying is that if Ohio is the best we could do then there's something wrong.... Stop trying to make things up
 
I think its as simple as Ohio looked like he would be able to do what Delap does, but the championship has been a bit of a step up too soon for him in terms of general play (he may still play a part). Rosie will learn from it and probably not do the same thing again.
 
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Yes we've improved from last season, but that doesn't mean come the end of the season if we miss out on the play offs due to our lack of goals then it's a massive missed opportunity considering how close we are and the backing LR has had....and if that's the case then a question has to be asked of Liam, if as you say it's his job to get the best out the squad. Because right now he's either getting the best out the squad and the squad he has isn't good enough to score the goals needed to get a play off spot or he's not getting the best out of them. Which is it?

He's not working with a top 6 budget, nor does he have the 6th best squad in the league - particularly when it comes to strength in depth.

If we do achieve that he will have overachieved based on the resources/backing he has available.

He'll have created the opportunity, as opposed wasting it.

Now call me naive, but the owner stating he'd be happy with 8th this year and progress year on year going forward, and the fact he's just improved Liam's contract, suggests to me that he's more than meeting expectations.
 
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He's not working with a top 6 budget, not does he have the 6th best squad in the league.

If we do achieve that he will have overachieved based on the resources he has available.

He'll have created the opportunity, not wasted it.

Absolutely none of that means anything. Or are you saying you can only be a play off team if you have a top 6 budget? And you don't think we have a top 6 squad? LR seems to think he has....are you disagreeing with him and saying he's wrong?

Missing out on the play offs this season in the position we've been in, the squad we have and the backing Acun has given will be a big missed opportunity. That doesn't mean we haven't improved on last season either
 
He's not working with a top 6 budget, not does he have the 6th best squad in the league.

If we do achieve that he will have overachieved based on the resources/backing he has available.

He'll have created the opportunity, not wasted it.
Wrong and wrong. We absolutely have top 6 squads in the league and we also spend more then 18 other teams
 
Wrong and wrong. We absolutely have top 6 squads in the league and we also spend more then 18 other teams

We spend more than the 6 parachute clubs and the likes of Stoke and Boro do we?

Yeah, OK then.

Did you listen to the Kieran Maguire 1904 club episode where he laid clear that were well under the average for championship losses to June 23?

The club have said themselves they can't compete financially with at least 6 parachute clubs. Are they liars?
 
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Absolutely none of that means anything. Or are you saying you can only be a play off team if you have a top 6 budget? And you don't think we have a top 6 squad? LR seems to think he has....are you disagreeing with him and saying he's wrong?

Missing out on the play offs this season in the position we've been in, the squad we have and the backing Acun has given will be a big missed opportunity. That doesn't mean we haven't improved on last season either

I'm saying that if you outperform your budget, especially starting from a low base and not having had the cumulative investment over years that others have had underpinning this years budget also, then you've ultimately overachieved.

No matter how much you try to spin it otherwise.

(And LR has said he has a squad capable of achieving it - not quite the same as having a top 6 squad - but of course he's not going to come out and say any different, now is he? )
 
The reason Brucie was always saying that too was that we rarely had the budget to go and sign a proven one at prem level. Long would have been the only one really. And he wanted away as soon as Southampton came sniffing.

Not having a marquee no 9 of the level is something that's been a recurring issue for years now, except maybe in L1. Last one we had at championship level was pretty much Abel - and his limitations became more evident in the PL.

It's not something unique to this ownership or head coach by any means. Just means it's the hardest position to fill on a relatively limited budget.
I’d put jelavic in the proven category
 
I'm saying that if you outperform your budget, especially starting from a low base and not having had the cumulative investment over years that others have had underpinning this years budget also, then you've ultimately overachieved.

No matter how much you try to spin it otherwise.

(And LR has said he has a squad capable of achieving it - not quite the same as having a top 6 squad - but of course he's not going to come out and say any different, now is he? )

Just out of interest, what am I trying to spin? I've said we've improved on last season but that doesn't mean missing out on play offs this season isn't a big missed opportunity. Not quite sure what I'm spinning there...

Glad you've said your last paragraph though, just remember that next time you say claim Acun/LR/the club said xyz so they must mean it.... Glad you're admitting that what's said I'm public may be different to what someone actually thinks or what's said behind closed doors
 
Just out of interest, what am I trying to spin? I've said we've improved on last season but that doesn't mean missing out on play offs this season isn't a big missed opportunity. Not quite sure what I'm spinning there...

Glad you've said your last paragraph though, just remember that next time you say claim Acun/LR/the club said xyz so they must mean it.... Glad you're admitting that what's said I'm public may be different to what someone actually thinks or what's said behind closed doors

Well this time next year you'll have your chance to point to all the published accounts and I'm sure (sic) we'll be running a top 6 budget...

But I'm very sure if we did have a top 6 budget then the owner wouldn't be volunteering information such as top 8 representing progress this year, Tan wouldnt be saying we cant compete with parachute clubs, and they wouldnt have made it harder for themselves to get rid of Rosenior only 2 months ago.

And yes, you've had a pretty clear narrative undermining Liam at every opportunity since at least the summer.
 
Well this time next year you'll have your chance to point to all the published accounts and I'm sure (sic) we'll be running a top 6 budget...

But I'm very sure if we did have a top 6 budget then the owner wouldn't be volunteering information such as top 8 representing progress this year, Tan wouldnt be saying we cant compete with parachute clubs, and they wouldnt have made it harder for themselves to get rid of Rosenior only 2 months ago.

And yes, you've had a pretty clear narrative undermining Liam at every opportunity since at least the summer.

Now you're making stuff up....when did I say we had a top 6 budget?