Ashworth to Manchester

  • Please bear with us on the new site integration and fixing any known bugs over the coming days. If you can not log in please try resetting your password and check your spam box. If you have tried these steps and are still struggling email [email protected] with your username/registered email address
  • Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!
Roland Deschain said:
So as I understand it, Howe is responsible for making crap players really good.

What's slightly confusing about that is - we've shipped 20 goals in 7 matches, and Longstaff, Almiron, Schar, Murphy, Burn, Dubravka have all looked more or less dogshit. And this is a slightly better period of the season rather than the bit where we lost 7 out of 8.

Yes, that's right, the same players who always were poor have gone backwards and look poor again. So what's Howe not responsible for in this situation? Alarmingly, Botman and Trippier have, at times, looked awful this season as well. But that's somehow NOT the coach?

The more I look at it, the worse it looks for Howe. The atmosphere is really flat, the football is confused and weird, the injuries perplexing. I'm not sure anyone on this board has ever looked at the in-game management and thought "great job, Eddie". Plenty of comments to the contrary, though.

I'm vocal about it because I 100% do not want Eddie Howe presiding over a £100m+ transfer window. Sinking feeling he will, though.
Click to expand...

Howe didn't make anyone good! Joelinton was always a good player in a crap team! He moved Joelinton to midfield by mistake basically which he admitted. What actually happened was he got 120 million shortly after taking over and he had a club on a wave of positivity.

The reality is that the wave of positivity has ended and its getting slowly worse regardless of how much money he's getting.

Which players has he improved exactly ? Joelinton was already a good player schar was not getting picked by Bruce ,Almiron is still Almiron and the likes of longstaff , Murphy and lascelles are still useless.

People were far too quick to lick Howes arse because they' were desperate to heap more shame on the previous manager, so they made up lie that he'd turned **** players into amazing players.... lol he's had hundreds of millions man...let's be real he hasn't made players better at all that's just nonsense.

He's done a good job overall but I smell the beginning of his end.
 
Last edited:
Lieutenant Dan said:
It's possible he's got this theoretical clause in the obligation to buy, but If like I say the manager just doesn't fancy him he'll be manipulating the situation accordingly.. maybe he wants the 30 million for Phillips for example.

Essentially it's the why? the clause is irrelevant. it's because Howe doesn't want him, but someone did <confused> if Howe had picked him he'd be desperate to prove he was a good pick.... what's happening is the complete opposite.

I heard Howe last week blaming the issues Burn was having on struggles further up the pitch, but poor Hall was just lacking.

This week we're reading that Ashworth hasn't had much control over incomings and it's one reason he's off to Man United....... suggests a little bit of a power struggle to me.
Click to expand...
So the opposite of what you said then. Howe not playing Hall because he didn't want him, but Ashworth forced it through. So Ashworth having control over transfers and Howe not playing him out of spite.

I suspect Ashworth is off though because he wants to work with Brailsford again and he knows he can operate without FFP restrictions.

We should just negotiate an increased compensation to drop the gardening leave and get what we can out of it. .
 
  • Like
Reactions: Darren Peacock’s Ponytail
JakartaToon said:
So the opposite of what you said then. Howe not playing Hall because he didn't want him, but Ashworth forced it through. So Ashworth having control over transfers and Howe not playing him out of spite.

I suspect Ashworth is off though because he wants to work with Brailsford again and he knows he can operate without FFP restrictions.

We should just negotiate an increased compensation to drop the gardening leave and get what we can out of it. .
Click to expand...

Absolutely, isn't that what the £20m is for? To allow him to start in the Summer?

Thing is time's not really on our side here. We need a quick resolution here and a new appointment. Similarly they really need to get it right. I'm really curious about Michael Edwards. He was offered a return to Liverpool not long ago but turned it down. He'd be a hell of a signing because L'pool have worked within their own constraints for some time and were really solid in the transfer market, as well as a structure continually allowing good players like Elliot and Jones, through the ranks.

Only issue if he come in is it protects Howe for the foreseeable, I think the two have a good relationship.
 
Roland Deschain said:
Absolutely, isn't that what the £20m is for? To allow him to start in the Summer?

Thing is time's not really on our side here. We need a quick resolution here and a new appointment. Similarly they really need to get it right. I'm really curious about Michael Edwards. He was offered a return to Liverpool not long ago but turned it down. He'd be a hell of a signing because L'pool have worked within their own constraints for some time and were really solid in the transfer market, as well as a structure continually allowing good players like Elliot and Jones, through the ranks.

Only issue if he come in is it protects Howe for the foreseeable, I think the two have a good relationship.
Click to expand...
Don't think we will get 20million for him.

Why would the fact that Edwards and Howe get on well, be an issue? That's exactly what you need with the Sporting Director and Manager/First Team Coach.
 
JakartaToon said:
So the opposite of what you said then. Howe not playing Hall because he didn't want him, but Ashworth forced it through. So Ashworth having control over transfers and Howe not playing him out of spite.

I suspect Ashworth is off though because he wants to work with Brailsford again and he knows he can operate without FFP restrictions.

We should just negotiate an increased compensation to drop the gardening leave and get what we can out of it. .
Click to expand...

It's not the opposite mate it's just that there's more ingredients than one in vegetable soup.

He will take all our best players and ruin our opportunities in the market.
 
Darren Peacock’s Ponytail said:
That’s all fine and dandy even if convoluted rubbish but my response was about stealing all our best players and our targets
Click to expand...

That was a joke and the first part was a just a funny and simple way to explain something people tend to struggle with.

Sometimes broader minds are required when looking for a reason because there's reason(s).
 
Last edited:
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top Bottom
Back