Oh and if this helps........He's been here 18 months and Shola ****ing Ameobi is still in charge our loan department 
Ashworth to Manchester
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£20m for a man best in class who thinks Shola Ameobi - A man who called the police because he thought his house had been broken into, then remembered he'd left it a **** tip, is best man to arrange loans (which have been ****ing disasters in the main)
Thanks lads+;lasses, Always a pleasure talking to you lot and usually get fair and honest answers to questions.
He was so impressed by Shola's hat collection that it clouded his judegement.
The only person who owns more hats is @Mick O'Toon.
He could turn out to be a great signing, just doesn't stick long enough.
On average, he always moves on to bigger clubs every 2-3 years.
So by the time he's finished that garden leave in 2026, he'll want to come back to NUFC.
On average, he always moves on to bigger clubs every 2-3 years.
So by the time he's finished that garden leave in 2026, he'll want to come back to NUFC.
Not sure how you get from us buying Hall and not playing him, to Ashworth thinking Howe has too much influence over transfers. Suggests the exact opposite.
I was under the impression that we had an obligation to buy him and the loan arrangement was just a way round FFP. If they do have a get-out clause in the contract, based on appearances, and have decided to go with that, then it suggests they made a bad decision, that they are at least trying to rectify, so we have an extra 28mill to spend in Summer.
Edit: Just realised that's exactly what Obi said!
So i agree with Obi.
I take it you have Chaos (Lieutenant Dan) on Ignore then.
The answer will be he's good , but we're forced to use mental gymnastics and find reasons to say he's not.
It's possible he's got this theoretical clause in the obligation to buy, but If like I say the manager just doesn't fancy him he'll be manipulating the situation accordingly.. maybe he wants the 30 million for Phillips for example.
Essentially it's the why? the clause is irrelevant. it's because Howe doesn't want him, but someone did
if Howe had picked him he'd be desperate to prove he was a good pick.... what's happening is the complete opposite.I heard Howe last week blaming the issues Burn was having on struggles further up the pitch, but poor Hall was just lacking.
This week we're reading that Ashworth hasn't had much control over incomings and it's one reason he's off to Man United....... suggests a little bit of a power struggle to me.
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Monday morning and the sight of Dan Ashworth having a kip at SJP on Saturday, a few hours before going on gardening leave, is a joke. Who's allowed that to happen? Staveley? Eales?
The club has more fires to fight than just the one on the pitch. Staveley's "best in the world" rallying cries have been replaced by how much pride she has in the team that can just about beat Forest - this is a direct quote following the 3-2:
Do we though? Regrettably Dan Burn keeps showing up, but far too many regularly go missing. It's all feeling a bit meh. I'm sure Man City felt this way as Hughes blundered through another season, but he wasn't kept beyond about 18 months. From Bleacher Report, on Hughes:
We finished 11th, then 4th. Now 8th, that's not progress. That's bumbling along in mid table. Whatever you feel about the injury situation, it is abundantly clear that Howe is mainly responsible for this season - as per Amazon, he's clearly influential in transfers and our Summer recruitment forever remains woeful. And his failures on the pitch, the one dimensional play, the lack of rotation when he could, have also hit us hard. For me, now is the time to reset and go again. Summer recruitment should be considerably better and we need a new DoF and management team if there's any desire for this ownership team to progress the club.
The club has more fires to fight than just the one on the pitch. Staveley's "best in the world" rallying cries have been replaced by how much pride she has in the team that can just about beat Forest - this is a direct quote following the 3-2:
Do we though? Regrettably Dan Burn keeps showing up, but far too many regularly go missing. It's all feeling a bit meh. I'm sure Man City felt this way as Hughes blundered through another season, but he wasn't kept beyond about 18 months. From Bleacher Report, on Hughes:
We finished 11th, then 4th. Now 8th, that's not progress. That's bumbling along in mid table. Whatever you feel about the injury situation, it is abundantly clear that Howe is mainly responsible for this season - as per Amazon, he's clearly influential in transfers and our Summer recruitment forever remains woeful. And his failures on the pitch, the one dimensional play, the lack of rotation when he could, have also hit us hard. For me, now is the time to reset and go again. Summer recruitment should be considerably better and we need a new DoF and management team if there's any desire for this ownership team to progress the club.
The club is a joke at this point! The way they came waltzing in saying we'll win everything only to end up playing Ritchie, Longstaff, Murphy and Burn almost 3 years later while having to constantly admit they can't spend money, losing staff they recruited only 2 years ago, crashing out of the champions league and europa league having done drone displays to say 'look at us'. It's been an embarrassing season and once again everyone is laughing at Newcastle.
The excuses have been never ending from bad luck, to injuries and all the while the manager is absolved of all responsibility.
It's going to get worse before it gets better that's for sure.
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So as I understand it, Howe is responsible for making crap players really good.
What's slightly confusing about that is - we've shipped 20 goals in 7 matches, and Longstaff, Almiron, Schar, Murphy, Burn, Dubravka have all looked more or less dogshit. And this is a slightly better period of the season rather than the bit where we lost 7 out of 8.
Yes, that's right, the same players who always were poor have gone backwards and look poor again. So what's Howe not responsible for in this situation? Alarmingly, Botman and Trippier have, at times, looked awful this season as well. But that's somehow NOT the coach?
The more I look at it, the worse it looks for Howe. The atmosphere is really flat, the football is confused and weird, the injuries perplexing. I'm not sure anyone on this board has ever looked at the in-game management and thought "great job, Eddie". Plenty of comments to the contrary, though.
I'm vocal about it because I 100% do not want Eddie Howe presiding over a £100m+ transfer window. Sinking feeling he will, though.
What's slightly confusing about that is - we've shipped 20 goals in 7 matches, and Longstaff, Almiron, Schar, Murphy, Burn, Dubravka have all looked more or less dogshit. And this is a slightly better period of the season rather than the bit where we lost 7 out of 8.
Yes, that's right, the same players who always were poor have gone backwards and look poor again. So what's Howe not responsible for in this situation? Alarmingly, Botman and Trippier have, at times, looked awful this season as well. But that's somehow NOT the coach?
The more I look at it, the worse it looks for Howe. The atmosphere is really flat, the football is confused and weird, the injuries perplexing. I'm not sure anyone on this board has ever looked at the in-game management and thought "great job, Eddie". Plenty of comments to the contrary, though.
I'm vocal about it because I 100% do not want Eddie Howe presiding over a £100m+ transfer window. Sinking feeling he will, though.