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Discussion in 'Newcastle United' started by Toonitus, Feb 14, 2024.

  1. Rum & Black for 2

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    According to?
     
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  2. Toonitus

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    Howe didn't make anyone good! Joelinton was always a good player in a crap team! He moved Joelinton to midfield by mistake basically which he admitted. What actually happened was he got 120 million shortly after taking over and he had a club on a wave of positivity.

    The reality is that the wave of positivity has ended and its getting slowly worse regardless of how much money he's getting.

    Which players has he improved exactly ? Joelinton was already a good player schar was not getting picked by Bruce ,Almiron is still Almiron and the likes of longstaff , Murphy and lascelles are still useless.

    People were far too quick to lick Howes arse because they' were desperate to heap more shame on the previous manager, so they made up lie that he'd turned **** players into amazing players.... lol he's had hundreds of millions man...let's be real he hasn't made players better at all that's just nonsense.

    He's done a good job overall but I smell the beginning of his end.
     
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    My work is done Today mate... I couldn't resist sorry
     
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    So the opposite of what you said then. Howe not playing Hall because he didn't want him, but Ashworth forced it through. So Ashworth having control over transfers and Howe not playing him out of spite.

    I suspect Ashworth is off though because he wants to work with Brailsford again and he knows he can operate without FFP restrictions.

    We should just negotiate an increased compensation to drop the gardening leave and get what we can out of it. .
     
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  5. Roland Deschain

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    Absolutely, isn't that what the £20m is for? To allow him to start in the Summer?

    Thing is time's not really on our side here. We need a quick resolution here and a new appointment. Similarly they really need to get it right. I'm really curious about Michael Edwards. He was offered a return to Liverpool not long ago but turned it down. He'd be a hell of a signing because L'pool have worked within their own constraints for some time and were really solid in the transfer market, as well as a structure continually allowing good players like Elliot and Jones, through the ranks.

    Only issue if he come in is it protects Howe for the foreseeable, I think the two have a good relationship.
     
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  6. JakartaToon

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    Don't think we will get 20million for him.

    Why would the fact that Edwards and Howe get on well, be an issue? That's exactly what you need with the Sporting Director and Manager/First Team Coach.
     
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  7. Darren Peacock’s Ponytail

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    Because Roly doesn’t like Howe being our manager
     
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  8. Toonitus

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    It's not the opposite mate it's just that there's more ingredients than one in vegetable soup.

    He will take all our best players and ruin our opportunities in the market.
     
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  9. Darren Peacock’s Ponytail

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    You seriously can’t mean any of that? <laugh>
     
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  10. Toonitus

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    Have you not realised there's more than one ?
     
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    English please?
     
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  12. Toonitus

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    Have you even seen a bowl of soup?
     
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  13. Darren Peacock’s Ponytail

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    Yes
     
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  14. Toonitus

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    Vegetable?
     
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  15. Darren Peacock’s Ponytail

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    Yes
     
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  16. Toonitus

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    How many ingredients roughly made up that bowl of soup?
     
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    None that would make sense from your response to Jak
     
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  18. Toonitus

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    It should.

    Essentially there's rarley one solitary reason for anything and we are all guessing the ingredients of this situation

    There's a good chance it's all the reasons touted.
     
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    That’s all fine and dandy even if convoluted rubbish but my response was about stealing all our best players and our targets
     
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  20. Toonitus

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    That was a joke and the first part was a just a funny and simple way to explain something people tend to struggle with.

    Sometimes broader minds are required when looking for a reason because there's reason(s).
     
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