Match Day Thread Tottenham Hotspur v Everton

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I said this yesterday. I don’t think Vicario’s been weak. I think many goalkeepers would struggle.
I’m also of the opinion that the two controversial decisions aren’t necessarily fouls either, more foul tactics. And we need to do the same if that’s the case.

It’s a credit to Vicario in a way, that this is what teams are resorting to as he’s such a good shot stopper.
He reminds me of De Gea when he arrived.
Other teams are going to continue to target him at set pieces, nothing surer.
 
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in that case Dagusain(sp) committed 2 fouls in the box within about 5 mins therefore 2 pens , It cuts both ways
He is very inexperienced in the league and having watched the game thought that was how you play here. Is he wrong?
 
He is very inexperienced in the league and having watched the game thought that was how you play here. Is he wrong?
no but as I pointed out using your definition
Impeding a player is a foul. It is not a grey area. Holding a player is a foul it is not a grey area. The only grey is Oliver not enforcing the rules.
(which is why you thought the bitters goal should be disallowed) to Dragusain would result in at least one pen
 
no but as I pointed out using your definition
Impeding a player is a foul. It is not a grey area. Holding a player is a foul it is not a grey area. The only grey is Oliver not enforcing the rules.
(which is why you thought the bitters goal should be disallowed) to Dragusain would result in at least one pen
No argument. I am not looking for advantage I am looking for the rules to be enforced for ALL players.
 
best of luck with that as no one knows what half the rules are these days including our hapless refs <laugh>
Mistimed tackles can be difficult to judge but holding a player like a rugby man or playing the man with no attempt to play the ball are easy. The rules are clear. Judging hand ball in the penalty area is difficult so that we have the ridiculous spectacle of players playing with their hands behind their backs. We managed for over 100 years but suddenly all these decisions are difficult. There will always be contentious decisions but that does not excuse blatant ignoring of VERY CLEAR rules.
 
Mistimed tackles can be difficult to judge but holding a player like a rugby man or playing the man with no attempt to play the ball are easy. The rules are clear. Judging hand ball in the penalty area is difficult so that we have the ridiculous spectacle of players playing with their hands behind their backs. We managed for over 100 years but suddenly all these decisions are difficult. There will always be contentious decisions but that does not excuse blatant ignoring of VERY CLEAR rules.
yes well even those very clear rules can lead to disagreement one classic example is when you were awarded a foul (upgraded to pen by Var) on Kane by Lallana when imo he should have been sent off for dangerous play and that fits your criteria of playing your man with no attempt to play the ball

https://www.skysports.com/watch/vid...30/kane-defends-himself-over-penalty-incident

have to point out i cannot understand why this behaviour as allowed in football considering the possible consequences and have been moaning about it for years .
 
yes well even those very clear rules can lead to disagreement one classic example is when you were awarded a foul (upgraded to pen by Var) on Kane by Lallana when imo he should have been sent off for dangerous play and that fits your criteria of playing your man with no attempt to play the ball

https://www.skysports.com/watch/vid...30/kane-defends-himself-over-penalty-incident

have to point out i cannot understand why this behaviour as allowed in football considering the possible consequences and have been moaning about it for years .
Correct decision IMO I can't really see any argument. Lananla has crashed into his back. Kane is preparing for the ball coming down. He is already in position when he glances behind to see Lannala coming. Do you expect him to step aside? Even if he had time, which he didn't. I agree it was arguable that it was a penalty. It's a classic mistimed tackle in this case as both players go for the ball. It's not a deliberate foul by either player.
 
yes well even those very clear rules can lead to disagreement one classic example is when you were awarded a foul (upgraded to pen by Var) on Kane by Lallana when imo he should have been sent off for dangerous play and that fits your criteria of playing your man with no attempt to play the ball

https://www.skysports.com/watch/vid...30/kane-defends-himself-over-penalty-incident

have to point out i cannot understand why this behaviour as allowed in football considering the possible consequences and have been moaning about it for years .
If he stepped under him as he jumped then I would agree with you. But he didn't...he was already there.
 
Correct decision IMO I can't really see any argument. Lananla has crashed into his back. Kane is preparing for the ball coming down. He is already in position when he glances behind to see Lannala coming. Do you expect him to step aside? Even if he had time, which he didn't. I agree it was arguable that it was a penalty. It's a classic mistimed tackle in this case as both players go for the ball. It's not a deliberate foul by either player.
i see him look back and deliberately step back bend over to tip Lallana into a near head first fall . The clip i linked isn't the best view tbf as the one to see is the normal tv picture
 
i see him look back and deliberately step back bend over to tip Lallana into a near head first fall . The clip i linked isn't the best view tbf as the one to see is the normal tv picture
What was Lallana trying to do, as he definitely wasn't playing the ball?
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