Match Day Thread Hull City v Southampton

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Watching on TV/stream you miss so much compared to watching in person. Can’t see a lot off of the ball work and such, tv you only see where the ball is. This isn’t a dig or anything but Sydney said he thought twine had been playing well when he’d seen him. I’ve seen every home game in person and every time twine has played I think he’s been very very average and that’s being kind. He got an assist today which was good but I genuinely forgot he was even playing most of the time. His corners were ****e today as well. Tufan needs to start next game and hopefully lokilo is fit as I thought he had a really good game today, proper winger.
I was at Millwall and I couldnt see the details just the overall play
I've watched all but one of the streams and I had a lot better view
Away fans dont usually have a good view
I'd agree with you more if you have a good seat at home
 
You know what? Sack him then. Then six months later there'll be another issue and then the same cries and around and around we go.

I'm so tired of this moaning, I can see why Rosenior effectively told some fans to get a grip.

We aren't a £100m squad. We aren't, by any metric, a good bet for promotion. Most people said on here at the start of the season that we'd be in the top half and that would represent progress. We haven't been out of the top half yet all season. I said I think we'll be in with a shout for the top six and if we tighten up and play like we did today, we will be around that area. We're not going to get relegated, so why am I seeing the same sort of attitudes and posts I was seeing when we were getting battered 8-0 by Wigan before we were relegated?

It goes without saying that promotion is lovely, we've had one recently, albeit from a division we shouldn't have allowed ourselves to drop into anyway but that's another story. But I get the feeling that a lot of people's expectations marry up with that of the owners, who themselves speak about us having a top six budget and wanting to be in the top flight etc. We get all starry eyed as billionaires start investing and subconciously we start to think we're better than we are.

LR hit the nail on the head in his post match; half our team are kids. The likes of Delap, Philogene, Greaves, Morton, Connolly and Allahyar, they're all young players - 10 of the lads that played today were under 25. This lot have had a quarter of a season together and lost three games, they're only going to get better the more they play. You can see the improvement from last season, just watch any of our games under Rosenior from last year to this one.

You have to be patient. There isn't a magic fix or a special thing we can do as fans, we have to watch it game by game. We are adding to the quality of the squad over time and we have lads like Philogene, Seri and Tufan who are a level above; if we bring in a couple of players like that every window then we're going to go up sooner or later. If we finish 8th this season, I imagine everybody will be up in arms that we didn't get in the playoffs and LR is at fault for "all the draws".

Sacking managers isn't something we want to start doing, we've had two and a half seasons under Acun and we've had three different managers. It didn't work for Watford, who have spent miles more than we have, it certainly didn't work for Wednesday, it didn't work for Cardiff and it won't work for us. The key is to make long term progress. If we don't finish top half this season by some distance, fine, LR goes, even he'll admit that wouldn't be good enough. But if we get a top ten finish, that tells me we're heading in the right direction with a squad of young, talented players, an owner that gives a **** and a manager who has embedded a playing style that the squad bought into.

We're not the big fish in this league anymore, we're also-rans at the moment, we're out of the spotlight and many would count that as a good thing. We've quietly gone about our transfer business and the likes of Delap and Philogene have made people sit up and take notice a bit. Teams aren't turning up and expecting to roll over us, we were toe to toe with Southampton today and the quality of their subs (Che Adams and Ryan Fraser?) were the difference. Not to say ours aren't quality but they didn't look match fit. Both looked like they needed an U21s game before this one.

Rooney's first home game is gonna have a big crowd drawn to St Andrews for a physical game, which is usually where we do well. We've seen a decent reaction to losses so far this season, I expect we'll see one Wednesday too. Not the time for easy outs or wild calls, because there isn't anybody better we could have at the moment, certainly anybody who would give as much of a **** as Rosey does.
 
You know what? Sack him then. Then six months later there'll be another issue and then the same cries and around and around we go.

I'm so tired of this moaning, I can see why Rosenior effectively told some fans to get a grip.

We aren't a £100m squad. We aren't, by any metric, a good bet for promotion. Most people said on here at the start of the season that we'd be in the top half and that would represent progress. We haven't been out of the top half yet all season. I said I think we'll be in with a shout for the top six and if we tighten up and play like we did today, we will be around that area. We're not going to get relegated, so why am I seeing the same sort of attitudes and posts I was seeing when we were getting battered 8-0 by Wigan before we were relegated?

It goes without saying that promotion is lovely, we've had one recently, albeit from a division we shouldn't have allowed ourselves to drop into anyway but that's another story. But I get the feeling that a lot of people's expectations marry up with that of the owners, who themselves speak about us having a top six budget and wanting to be in the top flight etc. We get all starry eyed as billionaires start investing and subconciously we start to think we're better than we are.

LR hit the nail on the head in his post match; half our team are kids. The likes of Delap, Philogene, Greaves, Morton, Connolly and Allahyar, they're all young players - 10 of the lads that played today were under 25. This lot have had a quarter of a season together and lost three games, they're only going to get better the more they play. You can see the improvement from last season, just watch any of our games under Rosenior from last year to this one.

You have to be patient. There isn't a magic fix or a special thing we can do as fans, we have to watch it game by game. We are adding to the quality of the squad over time and we have lads like Philogene, Seri and Tufan who are a level above; if we bring in a couple of players like that every window then we're going to go up sooner or later. If we finish 8th this season, I imagine everybody will be up in arms that we didn't get in the playoffs and LR is at fault for "all the draws".

Sacking managers isn't something we want to start doing, we've had two and a half seasons under Acun and we've had three different managers. It didn't work for Watford, who have spent miles more than we have, it certainly didn't work for Wednesday, it didn't work for Cardiff and it won't work for us. The key is to make long term progress. If we don't finish top half this season by some distance, fine, LR goes, even he'll admit that wouldn't be good enough. But if we get a top ten finish, that tells me we're heading in the right direction with a squad of young, talented players, an owner that gives a **** and a manager who has embedded a playing style that the squad bought into.

We're not the big fish in this league anymore, we're also-rans at the moment, we're out of the spotlight and many would count that as a good thing. We've quietly gone about our transfer business and the likes of Delap and Philogene have made people sit up and take notice a bit. Teams aren't turning up and expecting to roll over us, we were toe to toe with Southampton today and the quality of their subs (Che Adams and Ryan Fraser?) were the difference. Not to say ours aren't quality but they didn't look match fit. Both looked like they needed an U21s game before this one.

Rooney's first home game is gonna have a big crowd drawn to St Andrews for a physical game, which is usually where we do well. We've seen a decent reaction to losses so far this season, I expect we'll see one Wednesday too. Not the time for easy outs or wild calls, because there isn't anybody better we could have at the moment, certainly anybody who would give as much of a **** as Rosey does.
The way to progress is to appoint good managers
I'm not saying Liam is necessarily a bad manager but there's more to success than simply not sacking managers
 
You know what? Sack him then. Then six months later there'll be another issue and then the same cries and around and around we go.

I'm so tired of this moaning, I can see why Rosenior effectively told some fans to get a grip.

We aren't a £100m squad. We aren't, by any metric, a good bet for promotion. Most people said on here at the start of the season that we'd be in the top half and that would represent progress. We haven't been out of the top half yet all season. I said I think we'll be in with a shout for the top six and if we tighten up and play like we did today, we will be around that area. We're not going to get relegated, so why am I seeing the same sort of attitudes and posts I was seeing when we were getting battered 8-0 by Wigan before we were relegated?

It goes without saying that promotion is lovely, we've had one recently, albeit from a division we shouldn't have allowed ourselves to drop into anyway but that's another story. But I get the feeling that a lot of people's expectations marry up with that of the owners, who themselves speak about us having a top six budget and wanting to be in the top flight etc. We get all starry eyed as billionaires start investing and subconciously we start to think we're better than we are.

LR hit the nail on the head in his post match; half our team are kids. The likes of Delap, Philogene, Greaves, Morton, Connolly and Allahyar, they're all young players - 10 of the lads that played today were under 25. This lot have had a quarter of a season together and lost three games, they're only going to get better the more they play. You can see the improvement from last season, just watch any of our games under Rosenior from last year to this one.

You have to be patient. There isn't a magic fix or a special thing we can do as fans, we have to watch it game by game. We are adding to the quality of the squad over time and we have lads like Philogene, Seri and Tufan who are a level above; if we bring in a couple of players like that every window then we're going to go up sooner or later. If we finish 8th this season, I imagine everybody will be up in arms that we didn't get in the playoffs and LR is at fault for "all the draws".

Sacking managers isn't something we want to start doing, we've had two and a half seasons under Acun and we've had three different managers. It didn't work for Watford, who have spent miles more than we have, it certainly didn't work for Wednesday, it didn't work for Cardiff and it won't work for us. The key is to make long term progress. If we don't finish top half this season by some distance, fine, LR goes, even he'll admit that wouldn't be good enough. But if we get a top ten finish, that tells me we're heading in the right direction with a squad of young, talented players, an owner that gives a **** and a manager who has embedded a playing style that the squad bought into.

We're not the big fish in this league anymore, we're also-rans at the moment, we're out of the spotlight and many would count that as a good thing. We've quietly gone about our transfer business and the likes of Delap and Philogene have made people sit up and take notice a bit. Teams aren't turning up and expecting to roll over us, we were toe to toe with Southampton today and the quality of their subs (Che Adams and Ryan Fraser?) were the difference. Not to say ours aren't quality but they didn't look match fit. Both looked like they needed an U21s game before this one.

Rooney's first home game is gonna have a big crowd drawn to St Andrews for a physical game, which is usually where we do well. We've seen a decent reaction to losses so far this season, I expect we'll see one Wednesday too. Not the time for easy outs or wild calls, because there isn't anybody better we could have at the moment, certainly anybody who would give as much of a **** as Rosey does.
“LR hit the nail on the head in his post match; half our team are kids. The likes of Delap, Philogene, Greaves, Morton, Connolly and Allahyar, they're all young players - 10 of the lads that played today were under 25. “
Who signed them?
Not like no one on here said get some experienced heads in is it


And there’s no one better we could get in!!! WTF
 
“LR hit the nail on the head in his post match; half our team are kids. The likes of Delap, Philogene, Greaves, Morton, Connolly and Allahyar, they're all young players - 10 of the lads that played today were under 25. “
Who signed them?
Not like no one on here said get some experienced heads in is it


And there’s no one better we could get in!!! WTF

We wouldn’t get the players of that quality if they were older. They would cost too much.
 
The way to progress is to appoint good managers
I'm not saying Liam is necessarily a bad manager but there's more to success than simply not sacking managers

Toast isn't wrong though. The form recently hasn't been great but by and large performances have been ok to good today included. The good thing is I can guarantee we wont go down this year because there are 3 teams destined for it in my opinion so why not give Rosenior time and see how it manifests.