Match Day Thread Sunderland AFC v Middlesbrough FC – Saturday 7th October 2023 - KO 12:30

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This is what you personally attacked me for:

Mowbray has been great but this hurts him honestly, of all the games for him this is the one where he is under more scrutiny, see Chopra Vs Mags etc

I read this and took it as you being on the side of TM and pointing out this is a game he will be scrutinised unfairly of he loses.

I think there has been crossed wires between the two of you mate.
 
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I read this and took it as you being on the side of TM and pointing out this is a game he will be scrutinised unfairly of he loses.

I think there has been crossed wires between the two of you mate.
Nope. No wires crossed. He attacked mowbray so he got abuse back. Fully deserved and joins the **** list on ignored.
 
Nope. No wires crossed. He attacked mowbray so he got abuse back. Fully deserved and joins the **** list on ignored.

I'm not sure he did? He pointed out Mowbray will be attacked, maybe was leaning that way himself but wasn't as bad as a few others have been. But personally don't think he was?
 
It doesn't matter, that's the reality. If your a coach or player and underperformagainst the club you're emotionally associated with (decades of history with), people are going to draw those conclusions.
This is what I have a problem with. There are no conclusions to draw, especially considering he beat boro last season. Don't get all defensive now.
 
Get away man, how often do you think players are booked for swearing at a referee?
At the start of the season all were warned about refs having been told to clampdown on this & I've seen a number of players carded for this, but none of them had been stupid enough to do it when they were already on a yellow.
How many have you seen booked for it?

And how many times do you reckon it happens per game?

Let's be honest, it's another one of those rules that gets applied only when it suits.
At least 5 playets booked for dissent over 14 of Wrexham's games - but never more than one in a game and none over the last 3, so players are mostly learning. Mind, Phil Parkinson got booked for dissent toward the 4th official in Wrexham's last match after a harsh sending off. Mind, being a goal and a player down, Wrexham took the game by the scruff and drew 3-3.

For me the big failure today was Sunderland falling apart, when we'd had half time for the gaffer to reorganise. Young players, yes, so they will learn a bit from the experience, but it looks like there is a gap in our training.
 
Ref was a joke and just wanted to be the centre of attention. Even if Neil did say “that’s a ****ing foul ref” it’s not dissent, bloke ruined the game by showing that card. How many other players would have said “**** sake ref” etc during that match? Absolute shambles.

Another officiating performance with a total lack of consistency. I’d love Mowbray to come out in his post match and slam the officials even if it does result in a ban…they can’t keep getting away with performances like this.

Away from the officiating, we had enough chances to be ahead by that point but yet again didn’t take them.
 
Mowbray will be over the moon though, get Philips in next week before we gan **** like today. 3 home defeats already going like last season this, i was hoping it would get abandoned but no such luck

What would get abandoned? You are away with fairy's you!

Phillips ffs
 
Ref was a joke and just wanted to be the centre of attention. Even if Neil did say “that’s a ****ing foul ref” it’s not dissent, bloke ruined the game by showing that card. How many other players would have said “**** sake ref” etc during that match? Absolute shambles.

Another officiating performance with a total lack of consistency. I’d love Mowbray to come out in his post match and slam the officials even if it does result in a ban…they can’t keep getting away with performances like this.

Away from the officiating, we had enough chances to be ahead by that point but yet again didn’t take them.

Sorry mate but Dan Neil has to take responsibility for his actions. He was on a yellow, he's shouted at the referee waving his arm. Yes its a seriously soft yellow to give out but teams were warned at the start of the season that it wouldn't be tolerated
 
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