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Bwood_Ranger said:
Yeah mate all those Tories voting Labour obviously. By-elections almost always have low turnouts and the sort of old gits who still somehow vote Tory are more likely than other groups to bother. 1200 votes out of over 30,000 in an electorate of about 80,000 doesn’t bode well. They’ll be on less than Garry Cooke who managed six votes soon.
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There is an unspoken reality about this by-election that Labour think people are too stupid to spot.

During the campaign, Labour sent half the Shadow Cabinet, various famous Labour Lords and other people up to knock on doors to get the Labour vote out. That will not happen at the next General Election, so Mr Shanks will probably be handing the seat back to the incompetent SNP. The only way that Labour is going to win big in Scotland is if the borderline independence voters wake up to the total pointlessness of the SNP at Westminster and decide to go back to the incompetent Labour Party for which they used to vote.

Scotland will still be run by the SNP MSPs at Holyrood but the United Kingdom that they want to leave will be run by Labour not the Conservatives.
 
pieguts said:
Wow name calling from the only self proclaimed adult in the room and yet he wants to be taken seriously.
Again showing what a gift he is <laugh>
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Gutless carries on his fantasy about self proclamations I'm alleged to have made (despite never having done so) yet avoids adding some of his own considered detail to tory link he's relied on so much. Probably the wisest thing the ****wit has ever done. <laugh>
 
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QuarterMoonII said:
Labour are crowing about their landslide victory in Rotherglen and Hamilton West but the turnout was low and they actually won big because of tactical voting as Conservative voters wanted to bloody the SNP’s nose while SNP voters stayed home. Will the result be replicated across Scotland in a General Election? That would wipe out Humza Yousaf’s Party at Westminster.

When Tony Blair brought about devolution, he knew what his Party was doing. In Wales, the Nationalist vote for Plaid Cymru was never going to challenge Labour, so people in Wales have been subjected to failure in perpetuity. In Scotland, Labour initially held sway but the Nationalists built their way up to a borderline majority, although currently the SNP need to be propped up by the hard Left Greens. If the SNP vote collapses at the next Holyrood election then Scotland will be back to Labour failure. Perhaps the SNP should get rid of Yousaf now that he has been on the cover of Time magazine.
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You're actually putting this down to Tories voting for Labour? Hysterical. On a 66% turnout in 2019 the Tories got @8000 votes. On a 37% turnout, they got 1.1k. So @ 7k of Tory voters, on a 30% reduced vote, turned out and boosted the Labour vote by 7K? Labour's share of the vote went up @ 20% thanks to Tories rolling up and giving them 7k votes? What total ****ery. John Curtice just turned in his grave (can't be long now by the kip of him).
 
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I disagree re Curtice. He's got the look of one of those old academics who live on the whiff of a lettuce leaf and the occasional glass of water. Probably get a telegram from King Willy in about thirty years time. As regards the voting though you are spot on. Tories won't vote Labour in any numbers. That's why it would have made sense not to fight too hard in Mid Beds it may let the Tories off the hook. Then we will get the Tory revival story from the client journos.
 
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Farage to lead the Conservative party ?

I would vote for him just for the pop corn & screeching from the lefty remainer triggered community
 
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