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Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Hudson92, Mar 24, 2023.

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  1. Hudson92

    Hudson92 Well-Known Member

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    Hahaha
     
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  2. Prehab26

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    Younger and cheaper than prichard who is leaving. Will be rotated as they try to build brand Jobe.
     
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  3. Kipper

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    No, obviously not. It’s spin

    Speakman and co will say anything to “explain away” whatever he is doing at the time

    Like when he said Dajaku was actually a striker last September and then later in the February that we don’t even play with a striker, when trying to explain away the lack of bothering to recruit strikers and leaving ourselves short (again)
     
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    Great Post and I agree we can get there, but it will need more financial input from our owners to get there.

    Yet every time spending x,y,z is mentioned the same excuses of "bankrolling the club" "throwing money away" "net spend" etc etc are used, yet to get to the promised land of a sustainable club we have to have investment and probably with the stupid way football is a huge amount of it.

    Basically football is ****ed and unless their is a great reset financially we will always need an owner with deep pockets or the biggest slice of luck ever
     
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    Not sure that statement is true as it seems you have based that on nothing but age, he has bought the club for a reasonably low price then maneuvered the 2 wasters out without them receiving anything like the profit they thought they were going to get. He has appointed a new board and brought on data analysts nutritionists and directors of football, they have retained our cat 1 academy status, we got promoted then the playoffs. We are now looking to extend the capacity at the ground and a full refurb of facilities. We now have a guy who was in charge of the finances of the MLS working for our club to help drive forward our commecial and financial arm.
    all of this and more in less than 2 years.it absolutely smacks of his inexperience when you think about it <doh>
     
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    I personally don't mind letting Pritchard and Batth leave, as long as its reinvested into the CDM & ST positions, they weren't going to get new deals so I'd rather the club recoup to reinvest rather than let them leave for free bear in mind letting them leave on a free now rather than next year is still saving on the wages.

    Seelt and Triantus did not come in as 4th & 5th choice so I think the plan all summer has been that Batth leaves.

    Think these decisions will be very divisive and will only be justified if they allow us to bring quality players in and they perform.

    I don't think Pritchards output is strong enough to get us promoted 4G 6A? for a no 10? Will Bellingham or Dack get more? I think Dack will
     
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    If that’s what they’ve said then it’s utter bullshit.
     
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    He also said they had bids in for quite a few strikers last January but that the clubs were wanting too much money or werent wanting to sell - said they didnt want to just sign any striker
     
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    Just to confirm. I have not said that a lack of trust in Tone is holding us back in signings.
     
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    I think the lesson should be don't gamble and leave yourself too short or it adds pressure and cost
     
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    No-one said you did, it was inferred by you and Bob that the owner doesn't trust the head coach.

    You both commented in and around a diacussion about potentially KLD not trusting the recruitment team.

    Neither of you outright stated it, but it is implied imo
     
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    They absolutely need to build Jobe. One of the reasons he come here. They will use Dack and Jobe. With Rigg being the third option.

    I like Prichard more than all of these but it's the decision they have made.
     
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    Just for clarity then. What people think of Tone has no impact on signings. That is Harvey and Speakmans look out. Tone just plays the hand he is dealt.
     
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    I think that there has been quite significant investment but that is probably not what fans want to hear, the investment to date has been on coaching staff ,data analytics, pitches at academy nutrition for the team scouting, in short building the foundations to help the club move forward. Its frustrating as these things take time and I don't think its about whether or not we spend the money I think it is when it is the right time to spend it. IMO now is maybe not right as I think on our current trajectory we will be in Prem sooner rather than later and any money saved now makes us more appealing to investors then as I think when we finally get rid of some bad legacy contracts of sponsors and kit manufacturers etc. we may well see a bit of cash coming into the club to help with player acquisitions. Like I say a log term plan and as fans a think a pit of patience is required as these guys in business terms are actually moving very quick considering.
     
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    But i also dont want them just signing any player just to get numbers in

    Anyway heres hoping to a new signing today
     
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    But now we have supporters screaming for us to Will Grigg it all over again.
     
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    I’m hoping you mean build him up as a player rather than what you were insinuating in your earlier post.
     
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    I actually think that what they are trying to do with him makes sense. He’s a good player but on the way down, might even get a fee for him. We’re replacing with a ready made with potentially more goal threat in Dack and a younger player to develop. Where it’s gone wrong is not having a striker so we immediately lose Dack to that position and Dack joining late and unfit. I think that was down to Dack sniffing big money elsewhere but still it means that the time for Pritch to go isn’t right. He remains a better option at this point at a time we can’t afford to weaken ourselves any more. Similar with Baath. From a football perspective both better kept until Jan but that would cost us financially.
     
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    Here’s hoping to the right signings in by the end of the window (based on your first paragraph which I agree with). ;)
     
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