Match Day Thread Gillingham v Southampton, EFL Cup 1st Round, 8th August, 19:45

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First comment on here post match.

I learned a while ago to not lose my **** over a football match, there are a lot more pressing things in life to get worked up about…normally stuff I can control.

That said I am a tad pissed off with the result, but it is not the end of the world. Not everything is binary. We are not amazing or crap. We can be somewhere in between.

Last night is hopefully a positive as the players (and fans) won’t think we will walk the league, without actually trying. We are not a Premiership side.

Rationally, we were never going to win the cup so it doesn’t matter we are out, but emotionally it does. There is no point in competing if you don’t think you can win.

Am I alone on here in actually not being anti SR? Sure they made loads of mistakes last year, but I can’t see any Asset stripping or walking away. I would much rather have them than Gao (who as it turns out wasn’t a bad owner). They are doing their best to keep the Crown Jewels, but if they have to leave, it wil be a good price.

Think we need a reality check. We are a Championship side, with a bottom of the premiership talent. No confidence and used to losing. That probably puts us in reality as a mid table at best side. IF we can shake off the gloom and doom and actually implement what RM says, we may just turn out to be a top 2 side. Need to work at it though.

Im still looking forward to Saturday as maybe we will turn up.
^This

You're not alone
Football's being taken over by all sorts of 'villains', SR are nowhere near the worst of those and may be among the best, we'll see
 
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First comment on here post match.

I learned a while ago to not lose my **** over a football match, there are a lot more pressing things in life to get worked up about…normally stuff I can control.

That said I am a tad pissed off with the result, but it is not the end of the world. Not everything is binary. We are not amazing or crap. We can be somewhere in between.

Last night is hopefully a positive as the players (and fans) won’t think we will walk the league, without actually trying. We are not a Premiership side.

Rationally, we were never going to win the cup so it doesn’t matter we are out, but emotionally it does. There is no point in competing if you don’t think you can win.

Am I alone on here in actually not being anti SR? Sure they made loads of mistakes last year, but I can’t see any Asset stripping or walking away. I would much rather have them than Gao (who as it turns out wasn’t a bad owner). They are doing their best to keep the Crown Jewels, but if they have to leave, it wil be a good price.

Think we need a reality check. We are a Championship side, with a bottom of the premiership talent. No confidence and used to losing. That probably puts us in reality as a mid table at best side. IF we can shake off the gloom and doom and actually implement what RM says, we may just turn out to be a top 2 side. Need to work at it though.

Im still looking forward to Saturday as maybe we will turn up.

I'm not anti-SR at all. I actually think they'll end up being good owners. Ankersen is a penis though.
 
First comment on here post match.

I learned a while ago to not lose my **** over a football match, there are a lot more pressing things in life to get worked up about…normally stuff I can control.

That said I am a tad pissed off with the result, but it is not the end of the world. Not everything is binary. We are not amazing or crap. We can be somewhere in between.

Last night is hopefully a positive as the players (and fans) won’t think we will walk the league, without actually trying. We are not a Premiership side.

Rationally, we were never going to win the cup so it doesn’t matter we are out, but emotionally it does. There is no point in competing if you don’t think you can win.

Am I alone on here in actually not being anti SR? Sure they made loads of mistakes last year, but I can’t see any Asset stripping or walking away. I would much rather have them than Gao (who as it turns out wasn’t a bad owner). They are doing their best to keep the Crown Jewels, but if they have to leave, it wil be a good price.

Think we need a reality check. We are a Championship side, with a bottom of the premiership talent. No confidence and used to losing. That probably puts us in reality as a mid table at best side. IF we can shake off the gloom and doom and actually implement what RM says, we may just turn out to be a top 2 side. Need to work at it though.

Im still looking forward to Saturday as maybe we will turn up.
I’m not anti SR, but they have a LOT of making up to do. Until we start seeing some positive progress they will be scrutinised at every step.
 
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For me the really telling line, and one mentioned by all of our recent managers, is that these guys in our squad TRAIN really well. What Martin has noticed - but was missed by Selles and the other one - is that some players train well but wimp out in matches. All last season we played the guys who trained well even though they offered nothing on match day. It has taken RM one game to say no, training isn’t enough.

That is me as a runner in races. I understand the psychology but I'm an amateur and would expect better from professionals.
 
Afternoon, Gills fan in peace! <cheers>

First and foremost, appreciate you lot going easy on us last night. From a personal point of view I think that is the best performance we have given at home in a few years and more relates to the investment we've received and our manager having a new lease of life, something that I believe @brb referred to earlier.

I do want to haste a word of caution to you with regards to your manager Russell Martin. I appreciate its still very early days for you with him as your manager but couldn't help but notice some real similarities in your play last night, to when he was managing MK Dons in League One a couple of years ago. Whilst you no doubt have more talented players then MK Dons had at their disposal, he's continued to utilise the same style of play there, at Swansea and now with yourselves and he very much got found out at League One level and I want to refer you to a game we played against the franchise side. They came out steaming out the blocks with their possession style of football and we had no answer for about 15-20 minutes of the game. Our manager at the time changed the shape, got the team to play higher and then just play an aggressive pressing game and we went from being played off the park to being the better side and comfortably winning 3-1.

Last night for me felt very reminiscent of that game and Martin's style of play. If your team can press aggressively, he doesn't seem to have an answer. If a team two leagues below can work that out, then I would be erring on the side of caution for you as frankly you're far too big for the Championship.

Anywho please don't take that as a massive criticism but an observation on your manager's style of play and perhaps lacking a Plan B which is something to be mindful of. Best of luck for the rest of the season.
 
Afternoon, Gills fan in peace! <cheers>

First and foremost, appreciate you lot going easy on us last night. From a personal point of view I think that is the best performance we have given at home in a few years and more relates to the investment we've received and our manager having a new lease of life, something that I believe @brb referred to earlier.

I do want to haste a word of caution to you with regards to your manager Russell Martin. I appreciate its still very early days for you with him as your manager but couldn't help but notice some real similarities in your play last night, to when he was managing MK Dons in League One a couple of years ago. Whilst you no doubt have more talented players then MK Dons had at their disposal, he's continued to utilise the same style of play there, at Swansea and now with yourselves and he very much got found out at League One level and I want to refer you to a game we played against the franchise side. They came out steaming out the blocks with their possession style of football and we had no answer for about 15-20 minutes of the game. Our manager at the time changed the shape, got the team to play higher and then just play an aggressive pressing game and we went from being played off the park to being the better side and comfortably winning 3-1.

Last night for me felt very reminiscent of that game and Martin's style of play. If your team can press aggressively, he doesn't seem to have an answer. If a team two leagues below can work that out, then I would be erring on the side of caution for you as frankly you're far too big for the Championship.

Anywho please don't take that as a massive criticism but an observation on your manager's style of play and perhaps lacking a Plan B which is something to be mindful of. Best of luck for the rest of the season.
I don't think the system was the issue. Playing 8 wingers, an insane Brazilian centre back, three fullbacks was probably more the issue.
 
Afternoon, Gills fan in peace! <cheers>

First and foremost, appreciate you lot going easy on us last night. From a personal point of view I think that is the best performance we have given at home in a few years and more relates to the investment we've received and our manager having a new lease of life, something that I believe @brb referred to earlier.

I do want to haste a word of caution to you with regards to your manager Russell Martin. I appreciate its still very early days for you with him as your manager but couldn't help but notice some real similarities in your play last night, to when he was managing MK Dons in League One a couple of years ago. Whilst you no doubt have more talented players then MK Dons had at their disposal, he's continued to utilise the same style of play there, at Swansea and now with yourselves and he very much got found out at League One level and I want to refer you to a game we played against the franchise side. They came out steaming out the blocks with their possession style of football and we had no answer for about 15-20 minutes of the game. Our manager at the time changed the shape, got the team to play higher and then just play an aggressive pressing game and we went from being played off the park to being the better side and comfortably winning 3-1.

Last night for me felt very reminiscent of that game and Martin's style of play. If your team can press aggressively, he doesn't seem to have an answer. If a team two leagues below can work that out, then I would be erring on the side of caution for you as frankly you're far too big for the Championship.

Anywho please don't take that as a massive criticism but an observation on your manager's style of play and perhaps lacking a Plan B which is something to be mindful of. Best of luck for the rest of the season.

In fairness to RM, MK Dons was his first job, so hopefully he has improved a lot and learned from mistakes etc. But yeah, we've heard all about RM's style of play from Swansea fans and it is a little cause for concern. The main thing we seem to be clinging on to is the fact that our squad is an improvement on Swansea's, plus we have the finances to back RM. I guess this will be the job that really makes or breaks him.

Cheers for your insight, appreciated. Good luck this season!
 
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