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There's something seriously unnerving about a player from Manchester United calling Sunderland 'an incredible football club' ...

... people talk about success in terms of promotions but having the club admired and praised is success of a different kind.

The bad old days of Donald, Moyes, Grigg and Rodwell seem decades ago and few of us could've thought that could happen.

 

You're absolutely right. Success isn't all about promotions, trophy's etc. We're very different in this part of the world. This club is about representing a community, a heritage, a history. It's playing and demonstrating the values of the fans.

Up here, we don't come from money, education, frills. We come from hard work, graft, trying to better ourselves at every opportunity. When things don't go out way, we move forward, we improve, we try. Very easy to forget this.

Culture these days is under threat, everyone thinks we're all the same. We're not. We're shaped by our parents, our family's, ours and their experiences.

We're different and should embrace it. Nowt wrong with being satisfied by developing and helping a bunch of young players. Trophies etc are the aim, absolutely no doubt about it. But helping people succeed, find the right path, improving themselves, means a load more.does to me anyway.

I want to be proud to be a fan of Sunderland. I've lost that over the last few years. Even though I defended that regime wherever I could.

You look at man utd, Newcastle, Chelsea etc. Would you trade what we have for success on the pitch? I wouldn't. I want culture, I want representation, I want effort.

This team is so different, for the good. The people in charge are responsible. We won't all agree on the decisions. However, in the back of our minds, do we agree that they're making decisions for the right reasons?? If so, let them work.

Wow, Train tinnies makes me a bit emotional lol.

 

You’ll set me away - perfectly said. The people define us as a club. When those on the pitch channel the graft of us supporters, past and present, we will become a force to be reckoned with. I think that is what we are finally beginning to witness. Bring on the season!

 

Brilliant post mate, nowt wrong with a bit of honest emotion ...

... only those without any would mock you.

Our culture is precious, well said!

 

**** that I want success

 

This for me, times when we are chasing the game, having two up top makes sense. We could put Dack up front I’ve seen people say, maybe that’s the plan. No idea how good Mayenda is, whether he will be a bit part player like Lidaji, Bennette etc last season.

 

It's not an 'either or' situation.

 

Perfect post mate. Exactly how I feel. We have an amazing club for our city, amazing fans and a club that other fans get. As an exile the respect most fans have for us is immense and has never wained. They know what we stand for.

 

Imagine a team that represents our community AND was successful .

We've been close few times, maybe we'll get to live it soon.

[Edit: **OPTIMISTIC POST WARNING**]

 

We all do. If you dont appreciate the tone of the post then more fool you, you will never appreciate success when it comes in my opinion. Success is measured in many ways. If you want to win a premier league you havent been paying attention to football. If you want to win promotion then thats what we all want, but doing that with our own lads, unlike say Burnley, is a much sweeter success.

 

I honestly believe the next 10 years are going to be the most exciting we’ve witnessed, even if we don’t win anything, but to be honest I think we will.

 

The amount of times I've seen quotes from fans of the likes of WestHam, Millwall etc saying we are "proper" fans. We have a rep to be proud of in the footballing world.

 

Wonder if we can get anyone else in before 12pm Friday

 

There was hope for another to come in this week, apart from Bishop

 

Well said...if Mogga needs motivational words he can call you up.

 

But has a really bad injury and might not ever be same player. Also only has 12 months left

 

Bishop seems well up for it like

 

Only if I've had a few Stella's. Otherwise I'm full of ****

 

He looks absolutely buzzing to be here and that fills me with joy !!

 

Striker?