Would the fact that the £350 million per week going to the NHS that subsequently failed to arrive make the last referendum not binding as it was fraud by misrepresentation ?
Not straws mate, simply how a democratic government works. We vote in a bunch of hopefully smart and upright individuals and bestow upon them the right to take decisions on our behalf for the good of the country. Unfortunately by its very nature their decisions will only please some of the people some of the time.
But you specifically asked in post #140 why the result of the 1975 referendum was not "final/definitive/sacrosanct". And you have been given a well-informed, eloquent response. By now claiming that you didn't ask that, and by inaccurately accusing Draig of conflation, you're demonstrating that you weren't really interested in an answer to your question and aren't really interested in discussing these issues.
It could be if they getting stopped in the street purely on appearance. Let’s not forget many folk who look foreign are born and raised Brits. We don’t want to be like America where people are harassed for their skin colour and appearance. I’m all for diversity and multi cultural society.
Yeah, I agree it would be. The point being made was that British ID cards would have helped stop foreign criminals coming here when we were in the EU. But any honest EU citizen coming here would have had valid ID anyway (in the form of a passport- all that is required for an EU national to live in France, for example, where they have national ID cards). I was saying that if an EU citizen wanting to live here had to apply for a British ID card before they came, that would have stopped the free movement of people. I'm all for diversity and multicultural society too.
You can take it up with the Advertising Standards Authority if you wish, but it was contested at the time, with remain saying the amount listed was incorrect. However, this is a question of one of Leave's arguments being misleading rather than invalidation of all of the arguments put forward by Leave and if people say Brexit was just about racism and xenophobia, then surely they have to maintain that this misinformation had no bearing upon the result? But this has no bearing upon us having a second membership poll. The 1975 referrendum result remains valid, it's just that by the time of the 2016 referendum, the body to which the earlier referendum applied. no longer existed. Thus the 2016 referendum was totally separate from the 1975 vote. However, even if the polls were about membership of the exact same body, the fact that the Scottish and Welsh Devolution referrendums of 1979 were repeated in 1997 provide ample precedent for the public being asked a second time about our continuing EU membership.
"The CEO of brewery and pub chain Brewdog has poured a pint of the sourest beer possible all over Brexit. James Watt told Bloomberg that Britain’s departure from the European Union has brought about a “significant negative impact” on his own company’s operations and “massively handicapped UK companies that do business in Europe, with zero benefit at all.”" https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/brexit-has-brought-zero-benefit-to-uk-business-says-brewdog-boss/
Brewdog, isn't it famous for making misleading claims, its toxic working culture and hypocritically running an anti world cup because of human rights abuses of 'guest' stadium construction workers - even though it still sold its beers in those very stadia right through the world cup?
Sounds like he’s trying to make people look the other way. The chief executive of Scottish beer giant Brewdog has been accused of inappropriate behaviour and abuse of power in the workplace by former staff. More than 15 ex-Brewdog workers have spoken out about CEO James Watt to the BBC's Disclosure programme. Former Brewdog USA workers said Mr Watt's behaviour made female bartenders feel "uncomfortable" and "powerless". Lawyers for Mr Watt said the allegations were false and he denied behaving inappropriately. Brewdog was founded in 2007 by Mr Watt - then just 24 - and his friend Martin Dickie and it has its headquarters in Ellon in the north east of Scotland. The company, which has more than 100 bars and employs more than 2,000 people worldwide, says it is worth about £2bn. In 2016, Brewdog opened its first bar in the US - in Columbus, Ohio - and it now has eight across three states. The BBC Scotland Disclosure team started investigating the company after almost 300 former and current Brewdog employees signed a letter last year accusing Mr Watt of presiding over a toxic culture of fear. The documentary The Truth about Brewdogfeatures interviews with 12 former Brewdog USA staff who have alleged inappropriate behaviour and abuse of power in the workplace by Mr Watt. The documentary features claims that: Mr Watt was witnessed by staff kissing an intoxicated customer on a roof terrace bar Female bartenders were advised how to avoid unwelcome attention from Mr Watt Managers would try to schedule certain female staff to be off to avoid Mr Watt's visits One bartender said she felt "powerless" to prevent unwelcome attention from Mr Watt Mr Watt, while on trips to his US bars, took women on late night private brewery tours, leaving staff feeling uncomfortable Mr Watt flirted with a staff member before taking her to the roof of a Brewdog building in view of other staff. Katelynn Ising, who worked in DogTap, Brewdog's flagship bar and brewery in Canal Winchester, Ohio, said female staff would dress down when they knew Mr Watt would be in their bars.
Covid is to blame for the inflation crisis rather than Brexit, according to Andrew Bailey, the governor of the Bank of England. He dismissed claims that Britain leaving the European Union has helped to fuel stubbornly high inflation by worsening widespread worker shortages. Despite a chorus of claims to the contrary from businesses, economists and politicians, Mr Bailey said the main factor behind the squeeze on labour has been workers choosing to leave the workforce after the pandemic and not returning. “One of the striking things is that the labour force is smaller than before Covid. This is causing the position of the labour market to be very tight,” Mr Bailey told a panel of major central bankers. “I don’t think Brexit is part of this story, but it is partly a response to Covid.”
Perhaps so ... ... doesn't mean they're not right about Brexit. It's not like he's a lone voice is it?
Plans to cap energy bills could mean that increases in the cost of living will peak earlier and be "significantly lower" than previously forecast, economists have said. Prime minister Liz Truss is understood to want to cap energy bills at £2,500, with full details expected on Thursday. Goldman Sachs says thiscould see inflation peak at 10.8% in October, rather than the 14.8% forecast before. The Bank of England also said the plan could slow rising prices. But speaking to MPs on Wednesday, Governor Andrew Bailey said there was nothing it could do to stop the UK falling into a recession as the war in Ukraine continued. The cost of living is rising at its fastest rate in 40 years, at 10.1%, with food, fuel and energy prices all up. But economists at investment bank Goldman Sachs said that a cap on bills for households would lead to prices falling more quickly, with inflation (which tracks how the cost of living changes over time) slowing to 2.4% by December 2023. However, they cautioned that there was uncertainty around what exactly the plan will look like and what would happen once any cap is lifted. Meanwhile, the Bank of England's chief economist, Huw Pill, told MPs that "net-net" Ms Truss's plan was likely to see inflation decline.
Poor Rishi was so busy with pledges, promises and priorities that he totally missed the 7th anniversary of Brexit, and he'd been such a fanatical leave campaigner ... ... you'd have thought he'd have been boasting about all the fabulous benefits and how things are so much better now we've cut so many ties with Europe
