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‘Simms preference is Sunderland’
Ellis Simms has been linked with many Championship clubs this summer, with seemingly half of the second tier interested in his services ahead of the 2023-24 season.

Just yesterday it was suggested that Everton may use him as a makeweight in a potential deal for Coventry City’s Viktor Gyokeres.

However according to Lancs.Live, as Blackburn Rovers are said to be one of the clubs interested in him, Simms’ preference is a return to the Stadium of Light where he had a successful loan spell in the first half of last season.

Roker Roundup: Details of Dajaku deal revealed - and Simms’ “preference is Sunderland” - Roker Report (sbnation.com)
 
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rowley said:
What sort of system is it that a club can take a bloody 14 year old?

Utterly shameful. And BTW, he could not possibly pick a worse club for himself. I'm assuming though, that it will be the best move for someone else .
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Absolutely ridiculous. You have to think, how much are moves like this just an opportunity for people close to the lads to brag? Chelsea, the club that spunks millions on goal keepers rather than develope.
 
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WorkyTicketFTM said:
Random one I’ve thought about for a while, would anyone take Brandon Williams from United? Definitely a quality player in there but his attitude has been shocking last few seasons. Can play both sides too.

Something in me would like to take a chance on him but the other side of me wants Cirkin and Hume as our full backs for the foreseeable.
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I get your point but he was horrific at Norwich so not for me.
 
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C Montgomery Burns said:
I still think there's a player in there, but he's not progressed the way he should have, so this is a big move for him. Whether it's fitness, attitude, homesickness, too many distractions etc. as to why he's not progressed is anyone's guess. I know he was ill during the back end of his first season with us, and had treatment in Germany for suspected meningitis (he was in hospital for a good few weeks) which might have stalled him a bit, but that doesn't explain why the loan move to St Gallen flopped. In the end the club has moved on and left him behind and you can't see him forcing his way into consideration. Moving him on is best for everyone.

My guess is he was given a chance early last season to be in the first team squad regularly and didn't take it. Mowbray said he was one of the cleanest strikers of a ball at the club, yet he was invisible when he had games, so they basically made their minds up before Christmas to move him on. The loan to St Gallen was the last chance for him to prove himself to us and put himself in the shop window and get a decent move, but failed. It'll be interesting to see what happens in Split for him.
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Seems to me like he's one of these players who needs to find a home....somewhere he feels like he belongs....he's punting about at the minute hoping for it,but hasn't found it yet. Could be he's punting at a higher level than he should be,but if he finds somewhere,he maybe can grow into the higher level he's ultimately looking for.
 
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Looking forward to finding out exactly how the Chris Rigg contract is explained by the club later. I'm really confused by it.

My understanding is that if he signs a 2 year scholarship today, which takes him up until he's 18, it makes very little difference and that next summer as soon as he turns 17 he will be able to sign a professional deal with anybody else. The compensation we get wouldn't be that high.

So the only difference its bringing, as far as I know, is that he isn't going yet. The big "securer" is his first professional deal.

Obviously its great he is staying now and it bodes well for future. I just hope that people aren't misinterpreting this as meaning he's secured now and we will end up getting a big fee if he does leave etc.
 
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Southern A said:
My understanding is that if he signs a 2 year scholarship today, which takes him up until he's 18, it makes very little difference and that next summer as soon as he turns 17 he will be able to sign a professional deal with anybody else. The compensation we get wouldn't be that high.

So the only difference its bringing, as far as I know, is that he isn't going yet. The big "securer" is his first professional deal.
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Correct

Means very little other than he isn’t going right now (which if you’re an optimist I suppose may suggest to you that there’s a chance he won’t go even in 2 years time because he clearly he likes it here etc)

I am not an optimist
 
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Southern A said:
Looking forward to finding out exactly how the Chris Rigg contract is explained by the club later. I'm really confused by it.

My understanding is that if he signs a 2 year scholarship today, which takes him up until he's 18, it makes very little difference and that next summer as soon as he turns 17 he will be able to sign a professional deal with anybody else. The compensation we get wouldn't be that high.

So the only difference its bringing, as far as I know, is that he isn't going yet. The big "securer" is his first professional deal.

Obviously its great he is staying now and it bodes well for future. I just hope that people aren't misinterpreting this as meaning he's secured now and we will end up getting a big fee if he does leave etc.
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Exactly the way I understand it <ok>
 
Southern A said:
Looking forward to finding out exactly how the Chris Rigg contract is explained by the club later. I'm really confused by it.

My understanding is that if he signs a 2 year scholarship today, which takes him up until he's 18, it makes very little difference and that next summer as soon as he turns 17 he will be able to sign a professional deal with anybody else. The compensation we get wouldn't be that high.

So the only difference its bringing, as far as I know, is that he isn't going yet. The big "securer" is his first professional deal.

Obviously its great he is staying now and it bodes well for future. I just hope that people aren't misinterpreting this as meaning he's secured now and we will end up getting a big fee if he does leave etc.
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Shouldn't we look on it slightly differently though.....he's committed to us now....if we progress as we all hope,he'll have opportunity with us to progress his career alongside? Why do we need to assume,at this stage, he isn't going yet,but will at some point later?
 
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Brainy Dose said:
Shouldn't we look on it slightly differently though.....he's committed to us now....if we progress as we all hope,he'll have opportunity with us to progress his career alongside? Why do we need to assume,at this stage, he isn't going yet,but will at some point later?
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I'm not assuming anything - I'm just wanting to make sure people aren't thinking he's "secured" in the way a normal contract would, is all.
 
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