Off Topic Politics Thread

The issue is that the overwhelming majority of people are being left behind, you included, giving an unfair start in life to most people.

Like you I have done just fine for myself with a pretty dire state education, yet rather than just knowing it is a bit **** and trying to get away from it, I think more political capital should be directed towards improving the education for the many. Rather than those who escape relative poverty keeping the ladder just out of reach of everyone else.

If the tax revenue from adding VAT to private education goes in to the education budget to improve conditions for people then that would go some way to improving the current landscape. Your children would still get a top tier education but so would everyone elses who cannot afford it. Poor people want the best for their kids as well, as I am sure you prove testament too.

I also don't think you are a part of that world at all, I think you believe you are closer than you are. You have much more in common with the poorest than the richest.

 

I just want to point out that many of our negative attitudes towards teaching and education within the private system come from being educated in the 80s and 90s - before reforms came in and the education service became much more professional. For a good 15 years from the end of the 90s state education was on the up. The last 12 years or so it has started to slip, but there are still lots of incredible teachers in the system.

However, the attempt to damage the public’s view of state education is clearly an ideological one. The fact that Ofsted were instructed to move many schools down in rankings - and that hardly any Outstanding schools remain in many regions- should be enough for anyone to see that the tories want our public systems- all of them - to fail. They don’t believe in any socialist principles and only in greed. And head teachers and teachers are killing themselves as a result…

 

Fair points and reasoned post, thank you.

I have zero interest in this world you talk of, I am a very private person, and have no interest in being part of anything. I dont relate to rich or poor, I really dont care, I live they way I see fit and have no interest in labels, that you and so many on here do.

Apologies I said what I said to you the other day about earning more money. I was genuinely shocked at the reaction I got, I asked a civil Q and didnt get a civil response from anyone (well, later I think Os did). I think generally people played the poster not the post.

 

Understood regarding the labels and would probably agree, I am incredibly active politically and definitely get a buzz from it.

No worries at all - I enjoy the hot natured debate of this kind of thing as much as many on here!

I don't think people would disagree with your broader sentiment of wanting the best for themselves and their family. But the nature of this kind of thing often results in starting at our furthest differences and working in towards a more agreeable position.

 

They're on their way...

 

And I would rather be anywhere else than here today...

 

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I feel your pain here and I agree with much of what you’ve said.

However I feel your anger is misdirected. You seem to hate the wealthy and blame them for the problems.

I have mentioned it on here a few times now, but I feel the problem is the broken money system.

You are 100% correct - we need a society that encourages and rewards people for creating businesses and being successful, whilst at the same time rewarding hard work.

The problem is the fact that money is created from thin air and distributed to those closest to the money printer. It leads to this massive wealth gap we are seeing.

The wealthy pay a massively disproportionate amount of tax. The problems you are talking about are caused by useless governments and not evil rich people in my opinion.

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The other thing you fail to consider is that human nature means people will ALWAYS favour friends and family. Which means even if you abolish private schools, you will still get a network effect of friends helping friends.

 

KING CHARLES III RULES OK.

 

Just seen the coronation thread has been closed, obviously itching to do that since it was put up. How strange to close the last thread to be posted, on only Wednesday. So I just had a look back over past threads to see how many had been closed. What a surprise, practically none, even match threads from the beginning of the season still open. And before you say, this one is off topic and it's run it's course, there's one from LTL posted on the 31st May 2022 and last commented on in June 2022 and still open. Wonder why this one is different? Pretty obvious really, rather just upholding the boards rules and regulations, personal / political beliefs dictate what can stay and what gets locked or removed.

 

Probably because I was boring the pants off everyone, sorry if true!

 

It’s an outrage

 

Well done for finding that. Good work.

 

Anyone that posts a Celtic video loses instantly

 

Doesn't Finland have the highest educational standards, and what percentage of Finns are privately educated?

 

I have been out of the education system for quite a few years now, but back in the day, teachers studied for a three year certificate and for a Bachelor of Education over four years! I am not sure this kind of training exists any more and teachers are fast tracked into the procession. And if certain statistics are to be believed, fast track out of it within a few years. If.this is so, it is no surprise that state education is struggling!

 

You're not asked to do much in your job as moderator, being unbiased is the least the posters should expect. If that's too much for you, maybe you should consider retirement.

 

Being unbiased is not, and never has been, a requirement of a moderator. You’re quite welcome to disagree with any of my views, and I am of yours.

 

Your views are not the problem but allowing them to influence your decision making as a moderator is.