2 minute silence

Calling me a clowns a bit much? It was my cock up and I apologised for it afterwards.

Here in Australia Remembrance Day gets little attention compared to Anzac day, not to mention the fact that I was completely sleep deprived at the time. And I'm about to graduate from school, so I've had other things on my mind.

Had I known it was Remembrance Day I wouldn't have said any of the crap I did, I have enormous respect for the veterans of conflicts worldwide - was just posting a funny anecdote - didn't mean to cause offense.

 

Well I thought it was a funny, and you apologised so no harm done.

BTW, that Blackadder scene is brilliant. It always gets to me.

 

Ouch! Well done, on that cock up

Least you didnt mean it.

 

Aye, I still cringe at the thought of it.

 

I cringed reading it! Must have wanted the ground to open on you I imagine.

 

I did haha, got up and apologised for it in front of them all and then just sat feeling sick for a couple of hours. Was my last proper day of school too - should've known my most embarrassing moment would happen on that day. Serves me right for being a cynical twat in the first place though

 

Least it wasnt your first day of school mind! Now, that WOULD have been an awkward year for you!

 

Respect to all people in the forces but I feel its something of a shame that there now isn't a Remembrance day that is purely for the great wars. There is a big difference between volunteering to risk your life in the army and being conscripted; and I feel that it's often overlooked these days, when the media refer to the day as rememberance for all of those who lose their lives in military service, that many simple, ordinary men who would not ordinarily have volunteered were sent off to a horrible death with no regard or care for their lives by the fat idiots in charge of them.
Don't intend to disrespect anybody in the army who has lost good friends or family, perhaps my point of view would be hard to agree with if you've been in the army yourself. I just feel that it's far more unjust a loss of life when the person in question had no choice in whether they put themselves in such risk at all. I know I'd not be cut out to fight my way through one of the world wars - and yet so many were simply bundled into it.

 

I was out last night so slept straight through 11am. Still technically respected the 2 minute silence though...

 

Well said, Good Sir! You make a valid point. There is a massive difference in Volunteering, and having no choice in the matter.

I mean, this in no disrespect to the soldiers of today. After all, my Uncle is a medic out in Helmand.

But, there should be something else for the dead from the 'Great War'. On both sides they were just normal men, and made to fight each other. Simply down to the madness of a few politicans and generals! Its always been a ****ed up world.

We Will Remember Them!

 

I remember when something came up on my facebook, someone put up a status saying that people should stop going on about bringing the troops home for christmas as they sign up for the army to fight and they know what they were getting there-selves into.

Yes it may of been slightly uncalled for but the comments she got for it were much worse, people saying that she should be killed instead of soldiers, you wouldn't be here if it wasn't for them etc and about 2-4 people talking about how she wanted the packis to blow us up (wtf?).

And without getting controversial, this fighting for our freedom argument kind of grinds on me, since when were we in Iraq and Afghanistan for "our freedom".

 

To be fair afghanistan can be seen as a fairly just war. If there is such a thing.

 

Yeah, I guess you could say that.
But I think it's just another positive outcome for the government when really they want as much power in the middle-east as possible.

I'm not exactly a conspiracy theorist but I don't take everything that's fed to me.

 

This ^^^

The reason we're in Afghanistan is because the Taliban government was funding & supporting training camps for terrorists. Terrorists who were found to have had training before going on to commit atrocities such as the bombings of Kenyan & Tanzanian embassies, USS Cole, Madrid, New York, London & Bali. As well as providing most of the world's heroine.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-15688354

 

Thats fair enough and i would probably agree with you. But in the end isn't the only thing that matters that the people of afghanistan are free?

 

Yeah, Afghanistan was fairly justified but I was looking at the situation now, and the possible additional motives.
Like many others, I wan't us out of there as soon as possible and hand everything over to their government (if they can handle it).

It's just the word "fighting for our freedom" seems a bit over the top for me, it was pretty relevant during the Great Wars when we were truly in a pretty tough situation.
Probably best to acknowledge that every soldier fights for the country, whatever the situation.

 

Though it's interesting to note that during the Clinton administration, the US actually intervened to prevent Iran invading Afghanistan to rid them of the Taliban after a number of public executions took place. Now it's all the rage.

 

Absolutely fantastic comment by skalpel - agree with every word.

I wish Rememberance Sunday was about EVERYONE who has died in war and not just soldiers as well.

 

You make a valid point! However, I do feel that 9/11 was just used as a springboard to invade Afghanistan for its Oil!

Lets face it, If America were TRULY determined to put an end to all Terrorism, they'd have invaded Pakistan long before now.

Nope, I dont really agree with us being in the Middle East, to the extent we have been. But nonetheless, I have nothing but respect for the Men & Woman who have been out there fighting. They're braver than I could ever be.