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[Geordie Gashead]

Though it's interesting to note that during the Clinton administration, the US actually intervened to prevent Iran invading Afghanistan to rid them of the Taliban after a number of public executions took place. Now it's all the rage.

The hypocrisy in the West's foreign policies would be laughable if it wasn't so tragic.

 

[DuD]

Thats fair enough and i would probably agree with you. But in the end isn't the only thing that matters that the people of afghanistan are free?

Why aren't the people of Zimbabwe free?
Probably because we wouldn't get as much out of it.

Don't get me wrong, I respect the reasoning of the servicemen of the armed forces to go and fight and the people that support them but when the government act like they're knights in shining armour riding in to save the people of (insert war torn country here) it gets on my nerves a bit because lets face it, the government would never go out there way to help a country using that much manpower without receiving something in return.

 

[DuD]

Though it's interesting to note that during the Clinton administration, the US actually intervened to prevent Iran invading Afghanistan to rid them of the Taliban after a number of public executions took place. Now it's all the rage.

"These gentlemen are the moral equivalents of America’s founding fathers.” — Ronald Regan while introducing the Mujahideen leaders to media on the White house lawns (1985).

 

[skalpel]

The hypocrisy in the West's foreign policies would be laughable if it wasn't so tragic.

Exactly, the US is, in some regards, a cartoonish polar opposite what its founders wished it to represent and stand for.

"These gentlemen are the moral equivalents of America’s founding fathers.” — Ronald Regan while introducing the Mujahideen leaders to media on the White house lawns (1985).

Reagan was quite the idiot really. Many of the founding fathers of the USA were highly intelligent thinkers. If I were Paine or Jefferson I'd be spinning in my grave to hear he made it as president.

 

[overseasTOON]

Exactly, the US is, in some regards, a cartoonish polar opposite what its founders wished it to represent and stand for.



Reagan was quite the idiot really. Many of the founding fathers of the USA were highly intelligent thinkers. If I were Paine or Jefferson I'd be spinning in my grave to hear he made it as president.

I was living in the States when he was the President. My Dad was mortified (he was a Carter supporter) but in all honesty he simply pushed through promises on tax reduction that got him elected in the first place and also needed to be done.

 

[Alfie]

"These gentlemen are the moral equivalents of America’s founding fathers.” — Ronald Regan while introducing the Mujahideen leaders to media on the White house lawns (1985).

"The enemy of my enemy is my friend" Arab proverb

 

[Ba's Strawberry Syrup]

"The enemy of my enemy is my friend" Arab proverb

This. They supplied the Taliban to fight against The Soviet Union. Much like Saddam was supplied by the west to fight the Iranians. Talk about hypocrisy all you want but it's impossible to predict the future, they cant possibly have known that the Taliban would eventually attack them in the end. You have also got to recognize governments change. The Western governments then aren't the same as the one now times and people change.

By the way speaking of quotes and proverbs. ''The object of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his'' George.S.Patton ****ing nutter