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Off Topic Hull City Centre Public Realm Strategy

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  1. DMD

    DMD Eh? Forum Moderator

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    Other Authorities that didn't take up the offer seem to have managed. :emoticon-0105-wink:
     
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  2. HHH

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    Imagine cycling east along Freetown Way in busy traffic. Kettled along the left hand kerb with the intention of turning right on to George Street. You've virtually no chance of doing it safely.

    A strip of green tarmac along the side of the road, right into parked cars door zone is not my idea of safety.

    Cars and pedestrians have generally existed quite harmoniously along the same routes. It's only when they share the same space that problems occur.

    Likewise, cycles need their own space if you want more people to take it up.
     
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    I haven't driven on their roads, what I do know is that the road surface on Holderness Road is far far better now thanks to central government cash. That cash wouldn't have appeared if not for cycle lanes.


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    I drove through a Scottish border town yesterday where, I kid you not, the cycle lane was wider than the car lane - which was not wide enough to take a car, so you had to choose whether to drive partly in the cycle lane or partly on the wrong side of the road.


    I decided the best course of action was to weave about at random.
     
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  5. DMD

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    That's not strictly true. :emoticon-0105-wink:
     
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    Cue headline in local newspaper...Psychopath on Cyclepath?
     
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    Cycle path past Castle Hill is like that. Either drive in the cycle bit or at oncoming traffic
     
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    Most of the so called cycle schemes suit neither cars nor cyclists, and are not much more than paint on the road to tick a box to say they have xx miles of 'cycle lanes' even though they're filled with crap and parked cars.

    Those bloody stupid wands they've stuck up mean they can't clear the cycle lanes of glass and other crap, making them useless. They leave motorists under the false assumption that cycles shouldn't be on the road.

    They'd have been far better pushing initiatives that encouraged education on shared road use, as cyclists are there as of right, and cars can use the highways with appropriate permissions. They could have added funding for public transport too.

    That way, if people did use cycles or public transport, it'd effectively make the roads bigger without the need for someone in a hi-viz to lean on a shovel near the kerb for weeks on end.
     
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    Agree. Where I live there are 2 particular schemes which I pass through regularly both on bike and by car. One is where they've painted a cycle lane down one side which is wider then the car lane, let alone the buses. The other side they've just painted cycles on the road, no lines or wands or anything else, just cycles on the road. Nobody knows what it all means. The second scheme is a 3-rbt busy junction. There are no road markings, no lights and no signs. The rbts and the pavement edges are flush with the road surface. All you've got is different colours for road and pavement surfaces. It works brilliantly for pedestrians, cars, buses and cyclists. I think because nobody knows who has right of way, priority or whatever everyone just takes it easy, behaves respectfully and traffic just flows.
     
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    Went to Benidorm a few weeks ago, and the wider roads, like Freetown Way, had the cycle lanes in the middle of the road, used by bikes and electric scooters, the scooter riders all had helmets on and they and the bikers without fail stopped at the many traffic lights, did not jump them and did not go on the pavements.

    Will never happen here because everyone seems to have turned into self entitled ****s who think the rules don’t apply to them.
     
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    Bang on
     
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    We think we've got problems with empty shops, this large shopping centre in Bristol has gradually been losing tenants for twenty years and they now only have one remaining shop (Farm Foods) still trading...

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  13. Chazz Rheinhold

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    I was in Branny Cenner yesterday, lots of empty shops in there too
    And the market only had 3-4 units open
    Used to be queues at ted key especially when they sold off their fry ups at 4 o’clock
    Smelly dick used to be fighting to get there in time tho the crowd did part when he barged to the front
     
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    Seeing as some of you like bringing Rugby League up on these boards, I thought you might be interested in this.
     
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    I haven't felt so happy since I had a pilonidal sinus. :emoticon-0125-mmm:


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    Anybody fancy a C.E.O. job?
     
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    Own up, it can't be just me that saw that job title and hummed the rest of the Old MacDonald's Farm song. :emoticon-0141-whew:
     
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    Err, no, just you...
     
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