Match Day Thread Hull City v Millwall

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Regretfully I have to agree. Forgetting the fact that we nicked a win, our whole game plan seemed to be the back five (six with Darlow) doing pass, pass, pass, pass.... hoof!, lose the ball and defend again. Rinse and repeat. I know we're short of forwards but surely we have players skilful enough to retain possession and construct a meaningful passage of attacking play.
I have to agree with this. McLoughlin had a couple of opportunities to play it forward to Tufan on the floor . I'm not even sure he was looking for a forward pass
 
I feel a bit sorry for Ingram as I don't feel Darlow most of the time does anything he couldn't have done. Darlow had some decent blocks but not that much out of the ordinary I thought. But I'm sure he's getting paid more and he's got the shirt now.

This has happened a lot this season and last. With Baxter/Ingram and now Darlow/Ingram, we've had two good keepers at any one time and we've only really changed them when there's been an injury, and then the guy who gets injured tends not to get his shirt back until the other one gets injured. Darlow might still be waiting for his debut now if Ingram hadn't got injured.
 
I assumed that it was just a cock-up and he had no idea Seri had a player behind him.

Though Ingram was decent for us, I think Darlow is a definite step up and a significant one.

There's a pretty good arguement as to which keeper is better and could go either way when you really drill down into both their games... But to say Darlow is a significant step up (or to say either one is) is I think pretty unfair and insulting to how good of a keeper Ingram is and has been for us. Both have been fantastic for us this season and both have made some questionable decisions. I think we are lucky to have 2 of the best keepers in the championship. I don't think I'd swap either of them with anyone with bar possibly Patterson at Sunderland and Muric at Burnley
 
There's a pretty good arguement as to which keeper is better and could go either way when you really drill down into both their games... But to say Darlow is a significant step up (or to say either one is) is I think pretty unfair and insulting to how good of a keeper Ingram is and has been for us. Both have been fantastic for us this season and both have made some questionable decisions. I think we are lucky to have 2 of the best keepers in the championship. I don't think I'd swap either of them with anyone with bar possibly Patterson at Sunderland and Muric at Burnley

If Ingram is insulted by me calling him decent, we'd better hope the other players don't have a look on here. <laugh>
 
If Darlow can't get on the Toon bench, there No2. must be decent.

It's just down to the sheer step up in class, the difference between a top end champ keeper and top end Prem is absolutely huge. Darlow is a very very very good keeper, but he isn't anywhere near what's needed to be pushing for a place at Newcastle and That's not a dig at him in any way shape or form.
 
It may seem strange but I quite enjoyed the game, though I am one of these geeks that can enjoy a good defensive performance. Clearly, the last 20 minutes of the first half were not to Liam's liking, and credit to him for changing it, and it had the desired effect.

A gutsy performance though, and in many ways just as satisfying as a comfortable win, even though a bit more stressful to watch.

Ebiowei really is an enigma, and clearly has talent, but I thought in the first half Millwall did watch him closely and gave him little time on the ball. Though his body language doesn't help his cause, as it does appear that he is not trying. LIam moved him over to the left to try and improve his effectiveness but it didn't really help and hence his withdrawal at HT.

Greaves is an interesting one, and I am not sure whether he is unsettled or not. It is obvious CB is his preferred position, but with Macca and Jones playing so well, and they were both excellent yesterday, he is not getting a game there. When he first started at LB he was good and looked better than Elder, but yesterday looked out of sorts, and certainly, Elder did a much better job when he came on. It will be interesting to see what happens this summer.

Traore is proving to be the player we all hoped he would be, a real class act, and a wonderfully well-taken goal to win it for us. His HT introduction helped change the game.

Longman made a real difference when he came on, more effective than Malcolm, and was unlucky with his shot that just missed the target. Pity he got the dead leg, and he certainly bring energy to the proceedings.

Slater was very good again, he works his socks off and does a lot of the unnoticed graft needed in midfield.

Lastly, Darlow, what a game he had, and proved to be the keeper we hoped he would be, certainly MOTM for me.

That win I think dispels any worry about being dragged into a relegation scrap. Very interesting post-match interview with Liam, I felt that he now feels we are actually safe, so now was the time to call some players out, and they will know who they are, as clearly he is now getting an idea who he will keep and who will be shown the door.
Agree with all of that John.
I enjoyed the game.
Tbh I’d been questioning why Ebiowei and Allahyar don’t swap round regularly since being of them seems to be comfortable crossing with their weaker foot so drift inside instead. I’d thought it might keep the defenders guessing a bit more, but not thought it being in relation to trying to get Ebiowei to try harder but you could be right.
I do struggle with his lack of effort. Not body language, although I agree that doesn’t help, but anything anywhere close to 50/50 he seems to give up and doesn’t even bother chasing when he is often the faster of the two (on paper at least…yeah I know)
Shame for Longman as he was much better as you say, and Elder was much better that Greaves too.

Interesting to see how animated Liam was to the crowd in N Stand when he came over at the end. Clearly meant a lot. Whether that was based on a previous bust up, chuffed his subs worked, or just pleased we’ve pretty much put relegation to bed, I don’t know. Either way it was good to see.
 
Agree with all of that John.
I enjoyed the game.
Tbh I’d been questioning why Ebiowei and Allahyar don’t swap round regularly since being of them seems to be comfortable crossing with their weaker foot so drift inside instead. I’d thought it might keep the defenders guessing a bit more, but not thought it being in relation to trying to get Ebiowei to try harder but you could be right.
I do struggle with his lack of effort. Not body language, although I agree that doesn’t help, but anything anywhere close to 50/50 he seems to give up and doesn’t even bother chasing when he is often the faster of the two (on paper at least…yeah I know)
Shame for Longman as he was much better as you say, and Elder was much better that Greaves too.

Interesting to see how animated Liam was to the crowd in N Stand when he came over at the end. Clearly meant a lot. Whether that was based on a previous bust up, chuffed his subs worked, or just pleased we’ve pretty much put relegation to bed, I don’t know. Either way it was good to see.

Think Liam was happy. He said he walked around the ground having reached the 50 point mark which he thinks make us safe. He wanted to enjoy that with the crowd.
 
Well it’s a rubbish point, because we won.

His point isn’t rubbish, we saw it with Shota when we was somehow winning against all odds then it all went to pot. Not saying it’s the same as then cause it isn’t but I understand where he’s coming from.