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January transfer thread

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Southern A, Dec 3, 2022.

  1. Oliver's Army

    Oliver's Army Well-Known Member

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    Great post Smug. The whole "pay them what they want" stuff does my nut in.

    We have a pay structure (as any business would) and if you want more then good luck to you, go get it wherever you can and see how it turns out.

    Said it before, we shouldn't get too attached to these players, they will come and go pretty quickly under thi model.

    I love Rossco and think he is class and would love him to stay but some of the stuff going around about how we will be ****ed if he leaves etc is way over the top imo. With the greatest respect to him, we signed him for about 300k from Ross County as a complete unknown. He has a chance to make a few quid as does the club.

    Players will always come and go. That's just football.
     
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  2. Oliver's Army

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    Journo
     
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    Journo, but he’s from the Athletic. It’ll be bang on.
     
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  4. Mackem 10.1

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    You don't have to have a fee agreed at the end of it, you can get season long loans with no recall clause.
     
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  5. Hudson92

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    Every time we get some momentum we get a kick in the balls, good job this side have proven they can bounce back from just about any set back
     
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  6. Billy Batts

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    Agree with that, I don't particularly care or judge how he's got on at Wigan tbh, all I know is he was a good fit for us. I'd have him here.
     
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  7. David Moyes' Stupid Face

    David Moyes' Stupid Face Well-Known Member

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    I'd take him but as "third choice", imo. Mainly due to his injury record - he simply can't be relied on as a backup when he could break down in any game.

    If Broadhead comes in I'd like to see us sign another striker as well, ideally one slightly above his level.
     
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  8. Ozzymac

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    Shame we didn't have a tighter agreement in place to prevent this. That's the danger with recall options available in any deal. That said, not sure what Everton are playing at, stinks of desperation and Simms will progress and learn more here.

    Striker even more of a priority now. Given how we play, would absolutely take broadhead but that ship may have sailed with the mess about previously.
     
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  10. Southern A

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    It’s a crude way of scouting and @Scout73 can hopefully offer more perspective on each of these, but looking at the EPL2 top scorers list - other options might be:

    • Layton Stewart from Liverpool (replace SAS with Stewart and Stewart)
    • Mateo Fernandez (Leeds)
    • Abu Kamara (Norwich)
    • Sonny Perkins (West Ham)
    • Dom Ballard (Southampton - yes Dom not Dan)
     
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  11. Southern A

    Southern A Well-Known Member

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    agree but I guess if we want the best loan players we have to take this risk. I don’t mind it frankly as it shows perspective loanees what a move here can do for you. Although I expect simms to play about 180 more minutes this season which is sad really
     
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  12. Flash Gordon

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    I think the thing about Simms is that he's pretty much a poacher in style despite his size. He's not a target man or someone like Stewart who starts the press etc.

    If Everton want him to be a success, they'd have to look at partnering him with Maupay rather than replacing him.
     
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  13. Prehab26

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    Yeah, interesting one as from my observations , he will get eaten alive in the PL. That said, doesn't take much for some luck or fluke to get the ball rolling and confidence is an interesting thing in football.
     
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  14. Bob the Mackem

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    Do you know why we have not scored from either a free kick or a corner, it's crap deliveries by Pritchard, well that's what D***sy reckons.
     
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  15. Southern A

    Southern A Well-Known Member

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    think it’s a combo of poor deliveries and awful set up in the box. Nobody attacks the ball. We all stand edge of 6 yard box. So easy to defend
     
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  16. Smug in Boots

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    I've always had a dislike for Lampard which was heightened by his horrible interviews as a manager. I think he's a total fake. Everton are balls deep in the relegation battle for which he blames everyone but himself despite claiming he'd rise above the previous problems.

    Everton has a dreadful atmosphere around the place, with players and supporters at each others throats, and no place for an inexperienced lad who doesn't yet appear to have the necessary aggression for a dogfight.

    It gave us a lift at Reading when Simms left the field ...

    ... I can live with him leaving the club.

    Sanderson going was supposed to be a disaster that was all the fault of the club, I don't think I've heard him mentioned this season.
     
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  17. TopCat.

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    Agreed.
     
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  18. Samcro

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    Is this not a desperate act by Everton to force our hands with Stewart. If it's true they want him they could be using Simms as bait and offering less money to try get Stewart in on the cheap and a better centre forward at there club in Stewart?
     
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  19. Chunksafc

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    I wonder how Simms feels about all this, getting game time here, scoring goals, seems popular in the squad and now recalled to a relegation threatened Everton to probably sit in the bench and get the odd 20 minutes or not make the squad.

    Even the reports about him being recalled stated it probably not what is right for his development.

    Either way, he goes with my thanks for his contribution and I wish him luck, he needs a lot of work, but there is a very clever player in there that we were starting to see more and more of.
     
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  20. Southern A

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    I’ve come to the conclusion that my personal opinion is that we shouldn’t sell Stewart this window - contract or no contract.

    His value with 12 months left won’t be too dissimilar to now. It may drop. But it may increase. Score another 10 goals and clubs that are unwilling to gamble £10m now might see it as the bargain we know it is, and ergo we can push higher.

    however I will back the club no matter what they decide to do.
     
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