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CJ9150 said:
Being gay isn’t political
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You've hit the report button four times, I fear looking at the age of your account, the content is too adult for you, so I've removed you from further offence. If the mods want you reinstated they can send me a message and I will do so (once they are online), although I don't feel hopeful for you.
 
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Smug in Boots said:
Just to reiterate, I don't believe schools, sports clubs or youth clubs should be pushing LGBTQ, BLM or whichever groups you care to mention.

As a parent I took care not to push my beliefs onto my children ...

... so I wouldn't want other people doing it.
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Totally agree marra, I want my son to make his own decision on what he believes in
 
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Smug in Boots said:
Just to reiterate, I don't believe schools, sports clubs or youth clubs should be pushing LGBTQ, BLM or whichever groups you care to mention.

As a parent I took care not to push my beliefs onto my children ...

... so I wouldn't want other people doing it.
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I think that is very fair. I have taken a view that I would provide armbands, and laces in the past, to parents if they wanted to take them. Some do, some dont. I try not to push any beliefs I have, but maybe I shouldnt have done so in this instance. No offence intended to you or anyone else.
 
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Blond Bombshell said:
Here here, totally against ideology and politics being forced onto school kids before they are old enough to make a conscious decision on their beliefs. We've practically taken the word of God out of our schools so as not to offend, but deem morally acceptable to push the gay rights agenda.
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I remember a few years back, a gay couple sued a married couple who owned a cake shop or bakery. They refused to make the gay couple a wedding cake because of their religious beliefs. The cakes design made it obvious it was for a gay wedding. The last I heard was they won the case for discrimination. I thought that that outcome was ****e. How could you penalise a couple for following centuries of religious ideology being drummed into their ancestors and their very being. The business owners had no ill will towards the gay couple, they didnt want them stoned to death or sent to prison, they just didnt want to make a cake for an event that went against their religious beliefs. I'd like to think that if I was gay in this very situation and was met with the couples response I would respect their beliefs (which in this day and age I would acknowledge is in the process of dying out) and part ways and search for my cake elsewhere. I certainly wouldnt sue them!
 
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Smug in Boots said:
Just to reiterate, I don't believe schools, sports clubs or youth clubs should be pushing LGBTQ, BLM or whichever groups you care to mention.

As a parent I took care not to push my beliefs onto my children ...

... so I wouldn't want other people doing it.
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So how did your offspring end up supporting Sunderland then? :emoticon-0142-happy
 
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FellTop said:
I think that is very fair. I have taken a view that I would provide armbands, and laces in the past, to parents if they wanted to take them. Some do, some dont. I try not to push any beliefs I have, but maybe I shouldnt have done so in this instance. No offence intended to you or anyone else.
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Cheers mate, appreciate all that.

I had no real idea what all the LGBTQetc stuff was all about so Googled it. TBH I didn't like how vague and all inclusive it was. I know we're supposed to regard inclusiveness as a wonderful thing but you have to be careful.

For example the Q bit apparently means 'Queer is an umbrella term for sexual and gender minorities that are not heterosexual or cisgender.'

Does that include *****philes, necrophiliacs, etc ... is bestiality a sexually accepted thing, should we celebrate these people?

Personally, I think any society should have boundaries and not just a free for all where people who don't have an 'anything goes' attitude are called bigots or prejudiced.
 
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Bend Sinister said:
I remember a few years back, a gay couple sued a married couple who owned a cake shop or bakery. They refused to make the gay couple a wedding cake because of their religious beliefs. The cakes design made it obvious it was for a gay wedding. The last I heard was they won the case for discrimination. I thought that that outcome was ****e. How could you penalise a couple for following centuries of religious ideology being drummed into their ancestors and their very being. The business owners had no ill will towards the gay couple, they didnt want them stoned to death or sent to prison, they just didnt want to make a cake for an event that went against their religious beliefs. I'd like to think that if I was gay in this very situation and was met with the couples response I would respect their beliefs (which in this day and age I would acknowledge is in the process of dying out) and part ways and search for my cake elsewhere. I certainly wouldnt sue them!
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Iirc that couple ( the bakers) were in N. Ireland and were forced to take their case to a higher court and won their appeal.
Not sure if their costs were covered or not.
 
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Bend Sinister said:
I remember a few years back, a gay couple sued a married couple who owned a cake shop or bakery. They refused to make the gay couple a wedding cake because of their religious beliefs. The cakes design made it obvious it was for a gay wedding. The last I heard was they won the case for discrimination. I thought that that outcome was ****e. How could you penalise a couple for following centuries of religious ideology being drummed into their ancestors and their very being. The business owners had no ill will towards the gay couple, they didnt want them stoned to death or sent to prison, they just didnt want to make a cake for an event that went against their religious beliefs. I'd like to think that if I was gay in this very situation and was met with the couples response I would respect their beliefs (which in this day and age I would acknowledge is in the process of dying out) and part ways and search for my cake elsewhere. I certainly wouldnt sue them!
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Great post marra, underlying some people's lack of respect of others. Case went to court in 2014, took until January this year, seven years, to be thrown out by the European Court

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-59882444.amp
 
Bend Sinister said:
I remember a few years back, a gay couple sued a married couple who owned a cake shop or bakery. They refused to make the gay couple a wedding cake because of their religious beliefs. The cakes design made it obvious it was for a gay wedding. The last I heard was they won the case for discrimination. I thought that that outcome was ****e. How could you penalise a couple for following centuries of religious ideology being drummed into their ancestors and their very being. The business owners had no ill will towards the gay couple, they didnt want them stoned to death or sent to prison, they just didnt want to make a cake for an event that went against their religious beliefs. I'd like to think that if I was gay in this very situation and was met with the couples response I would respect their beliefs (which in this day and age I would acknowledge is in the process of dying out) and part ways and search for my cake elsewhere. I certainly wouldnt sue them!
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They could sue me if they wanted, but they would be having the s hits for quite a while after eating the cake I’d made for them.
 
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