Dr Strangelove (how I learned to stop worrying and love Boris)

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Moved to correct thread. I see Raab in trouble now, and he's expected to run PMQs

BBC News: Raab requests investigation into formal complaints

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-63647341

I think it he's asking, he's probably pretty confident that he's not in trouble.

We're back to the usual 'someone whose politics I disagree with is insisting I do my job therefore it's bullying' thing.
 
I think it he's asking, he's probably pretty confident that he's not in trouble.

We're back to the usual 'someone whose politics I disagree with is insisting I do my job therefore it's bullying' thing.

So you're happy that there's no issue before there's any facts established then?
 
So you're happy that there's no issue before there's any facts established then?

No, but Raab is unlikely to have asked for the investigation if he thinks he's in bother.

That's not to say there might not be more allegations, but I suppose at least we'll see what's classed as bullying to the civil service.
 
No, but Raab is unlikely to have asked for the investigation if he thinks he's in bother.

That's not to say there might not be more allegations, but I suppose at least we'll see what's classed as bullying to the civil service.

It's a tried and tested government policy. If the **** is getting thrown anyway then try and take hold of the narrative. We saw it with Patel and then with Partygate. You can kick the problem down the road for 6 months demanding everyone waits for the outcome of an investigation, claim goodwill by referring yourself and "co-operating" and taking the immediate pressure off. Then in 6 months time, when you get a slap on the wrist, you can apologise "if you felt bullied" rather than for being a bully and brush it under the carpet.

If this comes out in the wash now, Sunak's government is in real trouble before it starts after we've already had the Williamson debacle. In 6 months time, it'll be less of a threat.
 
It's a tried and tested government policy. If the **** is getting thrown anyway then try and take hold of the narrative. We saw it with Patel and then with Partygate. You can kick the problem down the road for 6 months demanding everyone waits for the outcome of an investigation, claim goodwill by referring yourself and "co-operating" and taking the immediate pressure off. Then in 6 months time, when you get a slap on the wrist, you can apologise "if you felt bullied" rather than for being a bully and brush it under the carpet.

If this comes out in the wash now, Sunak's government is in real trouble before it starts after we've already had the Williamson debacle. In 6 months time, it'll be less of a threat.

Feeling bullied and being bullied are two very different things these days.
 
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No, but Raab is unlikely to have asked for the investigation if he thinks he's in bother.

That's not to say there might not be more allegations, but I suppose at least we'll see what's classed as bullying to the civil service.

Williamson said he resigned in order to remove the distraction and totally clear his name ...

... it's all just waffle to sow a few doubts in people's minds.

It obviously works with some.

"In November 2022 Williamson resigned, stating he wanted to clear his name "of any wrongdoing" in relation to allegations, which he "strenuously denied", of him having bullied former Chief Whip Wendy Morton and of bullying behaviour previously during his own tenure as Chief Whip and as Defence Secretary."
 
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Williamson said he resigned in order to remove the distraction and totally clear his name ...

... it's all just waffle to sow a few doubts in people's minds.

It obviously works with some.

"In November 2022 Williamson resigned, stating he wanted to clear his name "of any wrongdoing" in relation to allegations, which he "strenuously denied", of him having bullied former Chief Whip Wendy Morton and of bullying behaviour previously during his own tenure as Chief Whip and as Defence Secretary."

Do you see the difference between the approaches though?

Probably not, given your history of going in two-footed on things you haven't read.
 
Wed 16 Nov 2022 19.15 GMT

"Britain is suffering worse economic performance than its rivals because of Brexit and a stark drop in the size of the workforce since the Covid pandemic, the governor of the Bank of England has said."


Oven ready but leaves a nasty taste in the mouth.
I'm expecting the tories to turn him off soon as fake news
 
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Wed 16 Nov 2022 19.15 GMT

"Britain is suffering worse economic performance than its rivals because of Brexit and a stark drop in the size of the workforce since the Covid pandemic, the governor of the Bank of England has said."


Oven ready but leaves a nasty taste in the mouth.

Tories bad. You can stop reading now.

Five million people economically inactive - that's not due to Brexit. It's people who decided they didn't want to go back to work after COVID. They're generally not taking out of the system (because you have to have enough money to just decide not to work) but they're not putting in either and that's where the problem lies.